[diesel_mercedes] Re: Cranky Old Men : " It's _MINE_ Dammit ! "

 

Nate, thanks for the tip on the seat, got down on my knees (ready to pray to the god Mercedes) pulled up both levers and bobs yer uncle, seat is fine again.
Tony,
NOT FOR SALE!!

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
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>
> Too late now =8-) .
>
> -Nate
>
> Tony wrote :
>
> Y'know while this guy was hinting about buying the car, I got this real sense of "its my car" just like it is part of my family or even part of myself. I mean ITS MY CAR some folks will say but its only iron, but its my iron-- oh crap not good to get attached to material things eh?
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Another One Joins The Herd

 


Just in case anyone is interested: I have two TD's non running parts cars. One could be put back on the road, but I will never do it. One turbo and one not. max
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
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>
> Tell her you love her *so* much you bought her a Mercedes ! . it's safe and reliable and oh so stylish ~ even the Hollywood set drive them to save the Earth and so on....
>
> Or , just say " at least I didn't spend $1,000.00 on BEER ! " .
>
> -Nate
> diyernh@ wrote:
> >
> > Driving to work today, I saw a 84 300TD. Nice shape, minimal rust, no blowby.
> >
> > $1000. I pulled in to look at it. Within 5 minutes, there were 4 people. There was a waiting line to test drive. I was 1st. I'm glad he took the 1000 cash instead of upping the price in a bidding war.
> >
> > His phone is still ringing with people trying to buy it.
> >
> > What do I tell SWMBO when I come home tonight?
> >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: You may want to put your answer in the file section, tips 'n tricks.

 

I didn't find a tips 'n tricks section.
But I did create a text file with this procedure in it.
Personally, I never thought it would have been worthy of such an honor . . .
bogy.

--- On Mon, 5/9/11, derekmathew@hotmail.com <derekmathew@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: derekmathew@hotmail.com <derekmathew@hotmail.com>


Thank YOU!

That is exactly what I was looking for. You may want to put your answer in the file section, tips 'n tricks.

Don

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From: "Bogy Wan Kenobi" <polespearbogy@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, May 8, 2011 9:59 pm
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Start of Injection Adjustment
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>

Here's how I have done it . . .

Pull the line to the #1 injector and turn the crank by hand a couple of times with the pedal at full throttle. This will fill the output spout with fuel but not spray it all over you. Then use a lint free towel or rag and blot up the fuel in the little spout until there is just a very little bit at the bottom of spout. The "spout" is a tiny funnel shaped affair and you just need to have the very bottom of it just barely wet with fuel. (I say "lint free" just to cover my butt. I usually just use the corner of a double folded t shirt.) Then watch it carefully as you turn the crank by hand with a long breaker bar type setup. You should see the level in the spout just start to change at 24.5 degrees BTDC.

But you needn't fear the dissassembly process either. And the "U" shaped tube can be made from a salvaged pressure pipe from another engine. Just bend it around a 14 mm socket and cut it off. Don't worry about flattening it - they are very thick walled.

Hope this helps,
Bogy.

--- On Sun, 5/8/11, rickmcrffl <derekmathew@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Has any of this august group
> attempted to perform either of the beginning of injection
> adjustment procedures as described in the the manual? I am
> not comfortable with the low pressure method without hearing
> from anyone with experience as it entails some IP
> dissasembly, and the HP method requires special tools not
> readily available but again experience may provide some
> substiturions.
>
>
> <>< Don
>
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[diesel_mercedes] New file uploaded to diesel_mercedes

 


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] BAD ~ _VERY_ BAD

 



I had a $500 junker '81 300CD that would not do cold starts on its own.  It only needed a mist in the intake, but it would start all day after that until the next morning.  It had lots of blowby and burned lots of oil.  The car was my fun non-running project on which I learned to adjust valves.  It was towed in, but drove out under it's own power!
 
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Another One Joins The Herd

 


Tell her you love her *so* much you bought her a Mercedes ! . it's safe and reliable and oh so stylish ~ even the Hollywood set drive them to save the Earth and so on....

Or , just say " at least I didn't spend $1,000.00 on BEER ! " .

-Nate
diyernh@... wrote:
>
> Driving to work today, I saw a 84 300TD. Nice shape, minimal rust, no blowby.
>
> $1000. I pulled in to look at it. Within 5 minutes, there were 4 people. There was a waiting line to test drive. I was 1st. I'm glad he took the 1000 cash instead of upping the price in a bidding war.
>
> His phone is still ringing with people trying to buy it.
>
> What do I tell SWMBO when I come home tonight?
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Won't Start Diagnosis

 


Well ;

If you take the time to read the responses and follow the suggestions in the correct step by step order , you'll find the outlay in tools and parts isn't much in the long run , certainly far less that having it towed to some local garage who might damaged it worse or sell you things you don't need , or do shoddy work because " it's just an old Mercedes " (shudder) .

Do the valve adjust and have the battery's ground cable off and the charger on it's lowest setting whilst you while away the hours learning how to adjust them and getting it done , be aware you really do need the special bent wrenches and a stepped feeler gauge to do it right .

Also , look in the clear plastic intake fuel screen ~ if it's black like coffee , or worse , has tiny chunky things in there that look a bit like old coffee grounds , then replace it with the correct one and buy a quart bottle of " DIESEL 911 " from Wally-Mart or your local truck stop and dump the entire thing into the fuel tank before proceeding .

Once it begins to run , it'll prolly chug and shake like mad ~ DO NOT let off the starter until it's running on all four cylinders and DO NOT release the throttle below 1/2 way or it'll stall out and flood (yes , Diesels can flood and they're bugger-all to get going again) , just keep it running , no pumpng thr throttle , it'll make HUGE clouds of choking smoke but it'll stop after a while so have faith and DON'T GIVE UP ! .

-Nate
Don Wrote :

OK, a valve adjustment it is. I'll order a new valve cover gasket today. Hopefully I won't need to invest in a compression tester; I hate buying tools that I'll only use once. (Then again, if I get one, that could be my justification for buying more cars.) Thanks everyone.

-Don

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow Plug Question

 

no.Only 616s,an 617s.

--- On Mon, 5/9/11, GENE <ekautz@centurytel.net> wrote:

From: GENE <ekautz@centurytel.net>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow Plug Question
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 8:24 AM

 
Ihave a question for the group? Does this valve adjust maintence apply to an 87 124 300D? If it does I'll need to
do the valves on my MB.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Another one?

Remember, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission!

Tell her "look what a nice car I got for you"! Works (nearly) every time!

Mark in Texas



On 5/9/2011 11:20 AM, diyernh@comcast.net wrote:
 

Driving to work today, I saw a 84 300TD. Nice shape, minimal rust, no blowby.

$1000. I pulled in to look at it. Within 5 minutes, there were 4 people. There was a waiting line to test drive. I was 1st. I'm glad he took the 1000 cash instead of upping the price in a bidding war.

His phone is still ringing with people trying to buy it.

What do I tell SWMBO when I come home tonight?
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: BAD ~ _VERY_ BAD

 

I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. However, the reluctant start is a real  issue after idleness - I find that WD 40 or CRC 5-50 does the job but I don't really know why:-(

/G.

2011/5/9 max_stemple <max_stemple@yahoo.com>
I blew a head gasket on a China Diesel once. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Alan Boucher <alstheone@...> wrote:
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> On 5/9/2011 8:42 AM, Nate wrote:
> >
> >
> > Only use starting fluid spray in your Mercedes Diesel if you're *rich*
> > and want to learn how to rebuild it....
> >
> > You have been warned , no whining later ! .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > Sometimes after a long cold winter hibernation, my old '60 190Db
> > needs a little shot of QuickStart to get started. Not sure I can
> > explain why, after it gets going, it's fine for the rest of the
> > summer, and may not need any more of it for a couple of years.  Maybe
> > I get some gelling of fuel in the pump. But once it fires, it will
> > warm up and then work fine.  Now we are talking COLD here, as I live
> > in central Canada.
> > >
> > > Bob G
> > > Ontario Canada
> > >
> >
> >
> The worst I've had happen with  judicious applications of ether to
> either my 240D or 300D is a fried glow plug.
>
> Al Boucher
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[diesel_mercedes] Another one?

 

Driving to work today, I saw a 84 300TD. Nice shape, minimal rust, no blowby.

$1000. I pulled in to look at it. Within 5 minutes, there were 4 people. There was a waiting line to test drive. I was 1st. I'm glad he took the 1000 cash instead of upping the price in a bidding war.

His phone is still ringing with people trying to buy it.

What do I tell SWMBO when I come home tonight?
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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow Plug Question

 

Thanks Max and Tom.   Not knowing how old this gasket is, I'm betting on having to replace it.  I did adjust the valves on the wife's 300D last fall.  I'm not sure I'll ever get it down to a half hour, but it should go faster this time around. 

 

-Don in St. Louis

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of audiolaw@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:22 AM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow Plug Question

 

 

Don, 

 

    You don't need a compression tester to adjust valves.  Invest in the Haynes manual for these cars.  It's no better than other Haynes books.  But it has clear pictures, diagrams and accurate data for the valve settings. 

 

    Pay attention to what Nate said.  You're going to need to do this operation every 3,000 miles.  By the third time, you'll be doing it in under 1/2 hour. 

 

Tom 

 

 

 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow Plug Question

 

Don, 
 
    You don't need a compression tester to adjust valves.  Invest in the Haynes manual for these cars.  It's no better than other Haynes books.  But it has clear pictures, diagrams and accurate data for the valve settings. 
 
    Pay attention to what Nate said.  You're going to need to do this operation every 3,000 miles.  By the third time, you'll be doing it in under 1/2 hour. 
 
Tom 
 
 
In a message dated 5/9/2011 6:32:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dbenski@sbcglobal.net writes:
 

OK,  a valve adjustment it is.  I'll order a new valve cover gasket today.  Hopefully I won't need to invest in a compression tester; I hate buying tools that I'll only use once. (Then again, if I get one, that could be my justification for buying more cars.)  Thanks everyone.

-Don

Yes ;

More perfectly good Mercedes Diesels wind up junked from lack of routine valve adjustment than anything else .

Once they're adjusted & the engine finally starts , you'll need to do them again in 3,000 miles maximum .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow Plug Question

 

Just because you are adjusting the valves does not mean you have to use a new gasket. Of course you always want one on hand, just in case, but if yours is not brittle or cracked or leaking, no need to replace. Be syre to coat with wheel bearing grease when putting back together, even a new one. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Don Benski" <dbenski@...> wrote:
>
> OK, a valve adjustment it is. I'll order a new valve cover gasket today.
> Hopefully I won't need to invest in a compression tester; I hate buying
> tools that I'll only use once. (Then again, if I get one, that could be my
> justification for buying more cars.) Thanks everyone.
>
>
>
> -Don
>
> Yes ;
>
> More perfectly good Mercedes Diesels wind up junked from lack of routine
> valve adjustment than anything else .
>
> Once they're adjusted & the engine finally starts , you'll need to do them
> again in 3,000 miles maximum .
>
> -Nate
>

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