[diesel_mercedes] Re: Neutral safety switch and shifter jamming.

 

I had the non-starting issue with my 84 300sd. It would not start about 5% of the time, especially when engine had run for a while. I was able to bypass the NSS by directly jumping the starter (people have writen about this beforehere). ALso there was always a click when it failed to start. Eventually it started only when I hit the starter with a wrench before starting. It pointed to the starter, and after replacing it about 2 weeks ago...no problem so far. ALthough I don't like that I had to use a NAPA starter, but the remanufactured one was a Bosch. Hope it lasts a while.

80 300sd 260K miles

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@...> wrote:
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> We've been experiencing shifter jam & the car not starting. Is there maintenance to be done to the shifter bushing and or any way of cleaning or repairing the neutral safety switch? Just had a case of not starting and then pushing the car into a parking space and then it started. It's my wife's car and I experienced the not starting once and it was solved by jiggling the shifter. Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 190D

 

that is nice....id like to fly to the west, pick up a car and drive it home...maybe someday. hope you are feeling better

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From: max_stemple <jasperezra@gmail.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 190D
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 2:40 PM

http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/3175040359.html

Well how about this one? I bet you could drive this one home. Max



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Neutral safety switch and shifter jamming.

 

What model car is it? New shift bushings will clear up a multitude of issues. Neutral switches are known to fail, but bushings might be the only problem.
 
Tom Hanson
Mercedes Benz Classic Center USA
MBUSA, LLC
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949 598-4842 direct
949 598-4870 fax
From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 5:26 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Neutral safety switch and shifter jamming.

 

We've been experiencing shifter jam & the car not starting. Is there maintenance to be done to the shifter bushing and or any way of cleaning or repairing the neutral safety switch? Just had a case of not starting and then pushing the car into a parking space and then it started. It's my wife's car and I experienced the not starting once and it was solved by jiggling the shifter. Lawrence Rhodes


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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Neutral safety switch and shifter jamming.

 

We did get rear ended last year big time and the shifter is a little funny. I got her to start once when it happened to me by fiddling with the shift knob. That is why I think it is the switch but then again we can all be fooled. LR

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

If it leaks you screwed something up, or you got a gasket with a hole in it. I never replace mine unless they need it and they last almost forever.. On my Ponton, the valve cover, where it meets the gasket in one place was soooo sharp I thought it could cut tru the gasket. Might check that. Most likely it fell out of place when you had the cover upside down or you clamped a vacuum line in there. Do it again, go slow , be really careful and use some grease on the gasket for sealing and be sure to wipe the head super clean. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Carmine" <drnickv@...> wrote:
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> More glow plug questions: All of mine test out as bad. I hear autolight is horrible, is the bosch the way to go? They are only 9.50 each at rockauto. Are there a better brand? I see the ones at diesel giant are $120 for the set.
>
> What about the reamer thing. Should I do get one and do while the glow plugs are out?
>
> And a side question? I slightly remember a discussion about valve cover gaskets. I replaced mine when I adjusted the valves and now it leaks constantly. I see diesel giant sells a video. Is it that difficult to chang it right? He says there is a trick? Only use a mercedes brand gasket? My driveway would love it to stop.
>
> Thanks, Nick
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>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "williamc" <wmcowart@> wrote:
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> > go to http://www.dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm for good instructions and pictures to test the entire glow plug system. Bill C
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> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Carmine" <drnickv@> wrote:
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> > > How does the glow plug system work in a 1984 300D. The car will not start and the yellow light is not coming on on the dash. It was fine yesterday. Today no go. Want to get her fixed quickly. Valves have been adjusted within last 1000 miles so I know it is not that. Fuel filter also changed 100 miles ago. Car is smoking so I know she is getting Fuel.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Nick
> > >
> >
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Ponton

 


Sure, on a trailer. Max
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> do you think that car would make the trip to New England?
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> --- On Sun, 8/5/12, ygmir111 <ygmir111@...> wrote:
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> From: ygmir111 <ygmir111@...>
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Ponton
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 5, 2012, 9:17 PM
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> drooling.......
>
> how ya feelin?
>
> Henry
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> To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:04 AM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Ponton
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> http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/3163269755.html
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Ponton

 

Who knows?  Sounds like the makings of a great, late-summer adventure, though.  Be sure to keep a journal, and take lots of pictures!

(And cash....)

Mark in Lakewood, CO
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Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 6:06:54 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Ponton

 

do you think that car would make the trip to New England?

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From: ygmir111 <ygmir111@att.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Ponton
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 5, 2012, 9:17 PM

drooling.......

how ya feelin?

Henry


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http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/3163269755.html




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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question CORRECTION

 

OOPS!  The mercedessource link I provided earlier is for the pencil-style glow plugs used in the earlier, series-wired engines.  The correct plugs for post-'81 iron-heads is:

https://mercedessource.com/node/4848

Mark in Lakewood, CO
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To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 9:19:50 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

DEFINITELY stay away from Autolites.

autohausaz.com has the Bosch's for less:

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=zeqknv55ueqlsq55usn1m1v0&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1193789@300DT&year=1984&cid=25@Ignition%20Parts&gid=7152@Glow%20Plug

Shipping is free if you can get the order over $50, so have them add a fuel or oil filter.

"Best" are the Monarks.  (Word has it that the Bosch's are now made in India or some such place, and the quality has taken a dive.)  Bergsma's outfit sells them for $12.50 a pop, or the kit of five plugs with reamer for about $90.  You can probably find them for less on amazon.com.

https://mercedessource.com/store/monark-series-style-glow-plug

I've never used the reamer, so, can't really comment on it.  Seems to me that if you can get the old plugs out, you've then done all the reaming needed; no need to be reamed any further....

I've removed and re-installed countless MB cam/valve cover gaskets over the last 30-years.  Can't think of any "trick" to it.  Just need to make sure the bottom edge of the cover is well seated in the gasket, and use even torques on the bolts.

Mark in Lakewood, CO  (Still using vintage Bosch plugs I find in the P-A-Ps.)
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To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 8:05:53 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

More glow plug questions: All of mine test out as bad. I hear autolight is horrible, is the bosch the way to go? They are only 9.50 each at rockauto. Are there a better brand? I see the ones at diesel giant are $120 for the set.

What about the reamer thing. Should I do get one and do while the glow plugs are out?

And a side question? I slightly remember a discussion about valve cover gaskets. I replaced mine when I adjusted the valves and now it leaks constantly. I see diesel giant sells a video. Is it that difficult to chang it right? He says there is a trick? Only use a mercedes brand gasket? My driveway would love it to stop.

Thanks, Nick

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Road Hole Bottom Bang

 

Well, that cost's money....

There's supposed to be a rubber bumper that keeps the upper A-arm from banging into the sub-frame when the limit of travel is reached.  Maybe this bumper is gone...?

Mark in Lakewood, CO
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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Road Hole Bottom Bang

 


I'd go to a front end shop,and have them check.
--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Chip <czulli@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Road Hole Bottom Bang
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 8:30 AM

 
My right front tire occasionally makes an unbelievable bang when I hit a drop down hole or a significant bump in the road.

What's up with that?

Chip
Houston

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

DEFINITELY stay away from Autolites.

autohausaz.com has the Bosch's for less:

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=zeqknv55ueqlsq55usn1m1v0&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1193789@300DT&year=1984&cid=25@Ignition%20Parts&gid=7152@Glow%20Plug

Shipping is free if you can get the order over $50, so have them add a fuel or oil filter.

"Best" are the Monarks.  (Word has it that the Bosch's are now made in India or some such place, and the quality has taken a dive.)  Bergsma's outfit sells them for $12.50 a pop, or the kit of five plugs with reamer for about $90.  You can probably find them for less on amazon.com.

https://mercedessource.com/store/monark-series-style-glow-plug

I've never used the reamer, so, can't really comment on it.  Seems to me that if you can get the old plugs out, you've then done all the reaming needed; no need to be reamed any further....

I've removed and re-installed countless MB cam/valve cover gaskets over the last 30-years.  Can't think of any "trick" to it.  Just need to make sure the bottom edge of the cover is well seated in the gasket, and use even torques on the bolts.

Mark in Lakewood, CO  (Still using vintage Bosch plugs I find in the P-A-Ps.)
From: "Carmine" <drnickv@sbcglobal.net>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 8:05:53 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

More glow plug questions: All of mine test out as bad. I hear autolight is horrible, is the bosch the way to go? They are only 9.50 each at rockauto. Are there a better brand? I see the ones at diesel giant are $120 for the set.

What about the reamer thing. Should I do get one and do while the glow plugs are out?

And a side question? I slightly remember a discussion about valve cover gaskets. I replaced mine when I adjusted the valves and now it leaks constantly. I see diesel giant sells a video. Is it that difficult to chang it right? He says there is a trick? Only use a mercedes brand gasket? My driveway would love it to stop.

Thanks, Nick

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Neutral safety switch and shifter jamming.

 

It sounds like the shifter bushings are worn out. Take a peek at the
bushings as well as the neutral safety switch, as maybe it's off too.
Some people have trouble starting in Park with worn bushings, as the
neutral safety switch isn't registering that it's in park, though when
in neutral it seems to line up OK.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA
==

On 8/6/12 5:37 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re : Neutral safety switch and shifter jamming.
> Posted by: "Nate"vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
> Date: Sun Aug 5, 2012 7:26 pm ((PDT))
>
>
> Usually the failure of the starter to crank , it the solenoid dying of old age , the jamming shifter is a new one to me .
>
> Remember : you can always go rescue her when it refuses to crank , just take a shiny new big paper clip and jumper the starter teminals in the black plastic box either on top of the right inner wheel housing or on the right frame rail near the alternator , depending on what chassis& year you have .
>
> -Nate
> Lawrence Wrote :
>> >
>> >
>> > We've been experiencing shifter jam& the car not starting. Is there maintenance to be done to the shifter bushing and or any way of cleaning or repairing the neutral safety switch? Just had a case of not starting and then pushing the car into a parking space and then it started. It's my wife's car and I experienced the not starting once and it was solved by jiggling the shifter. Lawrence Rhodes
>> >
>
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

Bocsh please


--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Carmine <drnickv@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Carmine <drnickv@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 9:05 AM

 
More glow plug questions: All of mine test out as bad. I hear autolight is horrible, is the bosch the way to go? They are only 9.50 each at rockauto. Are there a better brand? I see the ones at diesel giant are $120 for the set.

What about the reamer thing. Should I do get one and do while the glow plugs are out?

And a side question? I slightly remember a discussion about valve cover gaskets. I replaced mine when I adjusted the valves and now it leaks constantly. I see diesel giant sells a video. Is it that difficult to chang it right? He says there is a trick? Only use a mercedes brand gasket? My driveway would love it to stop.

Thanks, Nick

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "williamc" <wmcowart@...> wrote:
>
> go to http://www.dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm for good instructions and pictures to test the entire glow plug system. Bill C
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Carmine" <drnickv@> wrote:
> >
> > How does the glow plug system work in a 1984 300D. The car will not start and the yellow light is not coming on on the dash. It was fine yesterday. Today no go. Want to get her fixed quickly. Valves have been adjusted within last 1000 miles so I know it is not that. Fuel filter also changed 100 miles ago. Car is smoking so I know she is getting Fuel.
> >
> > Thanks, Nick
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Glow plug question

 

More glow plug questions: All of mine test out as bad. I hear autolight is horrible, is the bosch the way to go? They are only 9.50 each at rockauto. Are there a better brand? I see the ones at diesel giant are $120 for the set.

What about the reamer thing. Should I do get one and do while the glow plugs are out?

And a side question? I slightly remember a discussion about valve cover gaskets. I replaced mine when I adjusted the valves and now it leaks constantly. I see diesel giant sells a video. Is it that difficult to chang it right? He says there is a trick? Only use a mercedes brand gasket? My driveway would love it to stop.

Thanks, Nick

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "williamc" <wmcowart@...> wrote:
>
> go to http://www.dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm for good instructions and pictures to test the entire glow plug system. Bill C
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Carmine" <drnickv@> wrote:
> >
> > How does the glow plug system work in a 1984 300D. The car will not start and the yellow light is not coming on on the dash. It was fine yesterday. Today no go. Want to get her fixed quickly. Valves have been adjusted within last 1000 miles so I know it is not that. Fuel filter also changed 100 miles ago. Car is smoking so I know she is getting Fuel.
> >
> > Thanks, Nick
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Road Hole Bottom Bang

 


I'd go to a front end shop,and have them check.
--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Chip <czulli@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Road Hole Bottom Bang
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 8:30 AM

 
My right front tire occasionally makes an unbelievable bang when I hit a drop down hole or a significant bump in the road.

What's up with that?

Chip
Houston

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