We have a 1984 300D. Glow plug light is now not coming on. Car does start right up. Where do I start in trying to fiqure this out.
thanks, Nick
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] W123 demonized on car commercial.
Did you spell it superbowel on purpose?
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] W123 demonized on car commercial.
Way too electronified too! The same is true of our '07 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel. It has the bluetec emissions system on it, hardly smells like Diesel at all. They're prone to leaking on the EGR side, so the Diesel exhaust smell is periodically brought in through the bents and into the cabin!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] How I spent my Super Bowl Sunday
As a blind squirrel, I would go about collecting more nuts while you are waiting.
Funny stuff even for a blind guy! I love it!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
Mark, did you ever find a rebuild kit for that pump? I can find one for the 1980 SD all day long. Nothing for this oddball on the ’79.
Ben near Detroit
From: bgiovan [mailto:bgiovan@cavtel.net]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:10 PM
To: '
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
Thanks! Read it. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/message/53626
I posted the same question on Kent Bergsma’s board and this was his reply: “The newer style pump is the better design because they did away with the rubber diaphragms. They are not directly interchangeable. You would have to change the I.P. pump timing device that drives the vacuum pump. Older style had two diaphragms and the repair kit is dealer only.”
So looks like I need to source the repair kit. Maybe. I note your request of me in the last paragraph and now I do remember reading this one. I’ll let ya know once I get this thing back on the road.
Ben near
From:
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:22 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
It was message number 53626, titled "Super-Leaky SD - Solved?", October 18, 2010.
Only rebuild the diaphram pump if that's the set-up you have. To convert a piston-style-equipped engine to the diaphram-type pump requires more than mere bolt-across. It's all in the "Super-Leaky..." post.... Except for the part where I found the rebuild kits for the diaphram pumps (at autohausaz.com, for instance, you hafta to look it up as a rebuild kit for an earlier car, say, '74 240D. All the look ups for the '79s bring up the piston-type pump).
Now that I know this, I'm probably going to convert mine back to the original diaphram pump.
Mark in
> To:
> From: bgiovan@cavtel.net
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:26:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
>
> Sorry Mark - wasn't thinking about it in October! I'll do an archive
> search. I was just surprised I guess that within the span of a
> half-year these cars had two different vacuum pumps. So rebuild the
> double diaphragm is the consensus?
>
> Ben near
>
> On 2/7/2011 10:24 AM, Mark in
> >
> > Nah, the one on the right is the double-diaphram style, used on the
> > earlier (and so, generally, non-turboed) diesels, AND was the original
> > unit on my '79 SD. The one on the left is the piston type that is now
> > pretty common in the yards around here, because there simply AREN'T
> > any pre-80 cars in the yards right now. The nice thing about the
> > earlier unit is that it's still rebuildable for relatively cheap ($25
> > for two diaphram kits), whereas the kits for the piston type are over
> > $100 and were not available last time I checked (in October).
> >
> > It was in October that I submitted a rather comprehensive (and,
> > admittedly, lengthy) post on my findings on these pumps. 'Guess
> > nobody read it.... (Insert pity party here.)
> >
> > Mark in
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To:
> > From: vwnate1@yahoo.com
> > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:52:19 +0000
> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
> >
> >
> > Good question ! .
> >
> > Maybe one is a NA and t'other is from a turbo equipped engine ? .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Ben wrote:
> > >
> > > Both cars built in 1979 but two totally different vacuump pumps. Why
> > for?
> > >
> > > https://picasaweb.google.com/116318077355015592300/OM617VacuumPumps#
> > >
> > > Ben near
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 240 D in winter
we're still waitin for it to come back.........
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From: "max_stemple" <max_stemple@yahoo.com>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 240 D in winter
When is winter gonna be over with ? Max P>s> love it tho
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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
Thanks! Read it. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/message/53626
I posted the same question on Kent Bergsma’s board and this was his reply: “The newer style pump is the better design because they did away with the rubber diaphragms. They are not directly interchangeable. You would have to change the I.P. pump timing device that drives the vacuum pump. Older style had two diaphragms and the repair kit is dealer only.”
So looks like I need to source the repair kit. Maybe. I note your request of me in the last paragraph and now I do remember reading this one. I’ll let ya know once I get this thing back on the road.
Ben near
From:
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:22 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
It was message number 53626, titled "Super-Leaky SD - Solved?", October 18, 2010.
Only rebuild the diaphram pump if that's the set-up you have. To convert a piston-style-equipped engine to the diaphram-type pump requires more than mere bolt-across. It's all in the "Super-Leaky..." post.... Except for the part where I found the rebuild kits for the diaphram pumps (at autohausaz.com, for instance, you hafta to look it up as a rebuild kit for an earlier car, say, '74 240D. All the look ups for the '79s bring up the piston-type pump).
Now that I know this, I'm probably going to convert mine back to the original diaphram pump.
Mark in
> To:
> From: bgiovan@cavtel.net
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:26:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
>
> Sorry Mark - wasn't thinking about it in October! I'll do an archive
> search. I was just surprised I guess that within the span of a
> half-year these cars had two different vacuum pumps. So rebuild the
> double diaphragm is the consensus?
>
> Ben near
>
> On 2/7/2011 10:24 AM, Mark in
> >
> > Nah, the one on the right is the double-diaphram style, used on the
> > earlier (and so, generally, non-turboed) diesels, AND was the original
> > unit on my '79 SD. The one on the left is the piston type that is now
> > pretty common in the yards around here, because there simply AREN'T
> > any pre-80 cars in the yards right now. The nice thing about the
> > earlier unit is that it's still rebuildable for relatively cheap ($25
> > for two diaphram kits), whereas the kits for the piston type are over
> > $100 and were not available last time I checked (in October).
> >
> > It was in October that I submitted a rather comprehensive (and,
> > admittedly, lengthy) post on my findings on these pumps. 'Guess
> > nobody read it.... (Insert pity party here.)
> >
> > Mark in
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To:
> > From: vwnate1@yahoo.com
> > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:52:19 +0000
> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum pump 101
> >
> >
> > Good question ! .
> >
> > Maybe one is a NA and t'other is from a turbo equipped engine ? .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Ben wrote:
> > >
> > > Both cars built in 1979 but two totally different vacuump pumps. Why
> > for?
> > >
> > > https://picasaweb.google.com/116318077355015592300/OM617VacuumPumps#
> > >
> > > Ben near
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: How I spent my Super Bowl Sunday
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> You've still not learned your lesson I see =8-) .
>
>At least you did not have to watch that half time show. Who picks that crap anyway? Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: New whatzitdo? Electric wiring block on How to jump my '84 300SD?
Thanks for the advice on the wiring block - I'll attend to it soon. I'm enough of an "electrician" to make the suggested repairs, I have a good selection of replacement terminals and plenty of shrinkwrap tubing.
Anyone else know which wires I jump to make the starter kick in?
thx,
Barton
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Alan Boucher <alstheone@...> wrote:
>
> On 2/7/2011 2:07 PM, john public wrote:
> >
> > The terminal clip on the two red wires looks like it has corrosion,
> > FWIW. I'd replace that.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 2/7/11, Barton <barton.fiske@...
> > <mailto:barton.fiske%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Barton <barton.fiske@... <mailto:barton.fiske%40gmail.com>>
> > > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] New whatzitdo? Electric wiring block on
> > How to jump my '84 300SD?
> > > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 1:08 PM
> > > Hello again....well...the starter
> > > decided to freeze up last week, but one more time I managed
> > > to nudge it back to life. I still don't know what's wrong,
> > > so it's back to the shop for a more detailed diagnosis (no
> > > charge for the last cable tightening, so can't complain too
> > > loudly).
> > >
> > > Anyways - as I promised in a previous post, I would upload
> > > a pic of the wiring block found on the inner passenger side
> > > wheel well so that someone could (hopefully) explain what
> > > wires I jump to engage the starter. (Appears my key switch
> > > is working, but just in case, it would be good to know).
> > >
> > > So here it is:
> > >
> > >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/1102994371/pic/540910130/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/1102994371/pic/540910130/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc>
> > >
> > > Hope you can follow that URL - it's the most recent photo
> > > posted to my Yahoo group photo album called "Whatzitdo?"...
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!!!
> > >
> > > -Barton
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> Barton
> That green that shows on the fourth wire back isn't the color code, it's
> corrosion. The 123 is similar, if not so many wires. That terminal was
> corroded through on my 123 which caused a no charge situation, which
> caused a no start situation from a dead battery . In your case that may
> be the no start cause. the terminals should probably be replaced. Cut
> the wire back to clean solid wire and attach new terminals. Shrink wrap
> is good. If the wire is too short for a proper repair, splice in new
> sections.
>
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] New whatzitdo? Electric wiring block on How to jump my '84 300SD?
On 2/7/2011 2:07 PM, john public wrote:
BartonThe terminal clip on the two red wires looks like it has corrosion, FWIW. I'd replace that.
--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Barton <barton.fiske@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Barton <barton.fiske@gmail.com>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] New whatzitdo? Electric wiring block on How to jump my '84 300SD?
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 1:08 PM
> Hello again....well...the starter
> decided to freeze up last week, but one more time I managed
> to nudge it back to life. I still don't know what's wrong,
> so it's back to the shop for a more detailed diagnosis (no
> charge for the last cable tightening, so can't complain too
> loudly).
>
> Anyways - as I promised in a previous post, I would upload
> a pic of the wiring block found on the inner passenger side
> wheel well so that someone could (hopefully) explain what
> wires I jump to engage the starter. (Appears my key switch
> is working, but just in case, it would be good to know).
>
> So here it is:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/1102994371/pic/540910130/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>
> Hope you can follow that URL - it's the most recent photo
> posted to my Yahoo group photo album called "Whatzitdo?"...
>
> Thanks in advance!!!
>
> -Barton
>
>
>
>
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That green that shows on the fourth wire back isn't the color code, it's corrosion. The 123 is similar, if not so many wires. That terminal was corroded through on my 123 which caused a no charge situation, which caused a no start situation from a dead battery . In your case that may be the no start cause. the terminals should probably be replaced. Cut the wire back to clean solid wire and attach new terminals. Shrink wrap is good. If the wire is too short for a proper repair, splice in new sections.
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Door Seals & Rust
On 2/7/2011 3:52 PM, brian's 83 300d's wrote:
The aftermarket tin benders make replacement inner door bottoms for the 123. Unfortunately, the doesn't seem to be much in the way of replacement metal for the 126s.I've had a couple of new door seals laying around for a while and today I decided to remove and replace my wife's (Martha) driver front door seal (passenger front was done a couple of months ago).
But when I removed the old one, I wished I had waited to get some Miracle Paint - because even here in sunny California water seeps to the bottom of the door and rusts out poorly painted metal. The car has 300,000 miles and the doors will outlast me - but I still wished I had the paint handy when I pulled the old seal as it would be a simple fix at the time. Makes me think that, if it can happen in sunny Cali, the bottom of most 25+ year old doors in the rest of the country will be showing some rust.
brian from la verne
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