RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 

In the 123s, that is.  The S-class models, 300SD, W116 and it's successor, the W126, were turbo'd from the start (1978).

Mark in Lakewood, CO

To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: polespearbogy@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:52:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 
It's only on the turbo'd engines. they didn't start putting turbo's on them till 80 or 81.
Bogy.

--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Barry Edwards <duckn8r@me.com> wrote:

I'm looking at a 79 300D there is no sprayer anywhere 

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 


That's because the non turbo engines don't have them.....

The good news is : once you've tuned it to the Nth degree , you can flat foot it all day long and it'll go like stink and get decent fuel economy too .

Just remember : Diesels _DO_ need regular tune ups and maintenance or they'll become unreliable money pits .

-Nate
Barry wrote:
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> I'm looking at a 79 300D there is no sprayer anywhere
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 

It's only on the turbo'd engines. they didn't start putting turbo's on them till 80 or 81.
Bogy.

--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Barry Edwards <duckn8r@me.com> wrote:

I'm looking at a 79 300D there is no sprayer anywhere 

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


Boy are you dating yourself ! . that was Chevy's (in)famous " Target Lubrication System " and no , the Mercedes Turbo Diesel engines have nozzles that spray oil up under the piston to improve it's cooling .

-Nate
Barry wrote:
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> When you talk about the sprayer are you talking about the little scoops that they put on the end of the rod to scoop up oil and splash it up in the piston as the crank moves around,that was a great idea, not. I don't think you can count on that really helping much
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I'm looking at a 79 300D there is no sprayer anywhere 

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On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


Boy are you dating yourself ! . that was Chevy's (in)famous " Target Lubrication System " and no , the Mercedes Turbo Diesel engines have nozzles that spray oil up under the piston to improve it's cooling .

-Nate
Barry wrote:
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> When you talk about the sprayer are you talking about the little scoops that they put on the end of the rod to scoop up oil and splash it up in the piston as the crank moves around,that was a great idea, not. I don't think you can count on that really helping much
>
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From: Bogy Wan Kenobi <polespearbogy@yahoo.com>
Date: April 4, 2011 10:28:39 PM EDT
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
Reply-To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com

 

Not a good idea to put a turbo on a n/a engine. the n\a engines have a higher compression and may not be able to handle the (even) higher pressures a turbo would produce. Also, the turbo engines have an oil sprayer under the pistons to help remove heat that the n\a engines don't have. just my $0.02

Bogy.

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com> wrote:

From: barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:57 PM

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news.  Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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[diesel_mercedes] Fuel Co$t$

 


OUCH ! .

Just last night I finally got my old GMC truck buttoned back up and filled up one fuel tank ~ $98. + !! OWwwww.......

This Saturday morning there is a Mercedes Meet & Greet , Museum Tour and Pizza luncheon , so far hardly any of the usual suspects are in.....

I am told it is because of the fuel costs .

I hope to make it , we'll see , Coupe will prolly not get washed first dangit .

-Nate

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Boy are you dating yourself ! . that was Chevy's (in)famous " Target Lubrication System " and no , the Mercedes Turbo Diesel engines have nozzles that spray oil up under the piston to improve it's cooling .

-Nate
Barry wrote:
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> When you talk about the sprayer are you talking about the little scoops that they put on the end of the rod to scoop up oil and splash it up in the piston as the crank moves around,that was a great idea, not. I don't think you can count on that really helping much
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel fuel $3.92 an counting. $4.50 on the west coast. Veggie

 

when lows temps are above freezing I push cold fuel to engine with a 9 psi pump.In the engine bay all heating takes place.

--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel fuel $3.92 an counting. $4.50 on the west coast. Veggie
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 9:09 AM

 
I run a single tank with larger lines from the tank to the lift pump with heat
exchangers in line.  I do not heat the tank.  If I was in a colder climate I
might consider it but running the west coast it's possible not to need to do
so.  Lawrence Rhodes.....

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel fuel $3.92 an counting. $4.50 on the west coast. Veggie

Pump is $4.25 here in Detroit.

Ben near Detroit

On 4/12/2011 10:09 AM, Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
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> I run a single tank with larger lines from the tank to the lift pump
> with heat
> exchangers in line. I do not heat the tank. If I was in a colder
> climate I
> might consider it but running the west coast it's possible not to need
> to do
> so. Lawrence Rhodes.....
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>


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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel fuel $3.92 an counting. $4.50 on the west coast. Veggie

 

I run a single tank with larger lines from the tank to the lift pump with heat
exchangers in line.  I do not heat the tank.  If I was in a colder climate I
might consider it but running the west coast it's possible not to need to do
so.  Lawrence Rhodes.....

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