RE: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

And its not an AN- fitting.

Reading http://mdmetric.com/tech/tict.htm and http://www.ehow.com/how_5626809_identify-metric-bolts.html I figured it out. M10x1.0

 

Google M10x1.0 and you find fittings to convert this to American 1/8” or AN- fittings, which I am not planning to do.

Bill in Oregon

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of corvallis@peoplepc.com
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN_thread

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Good advice. I am not afraid to bend metal brake tubing. I guess my main question was about the ends. I will check sources on eBay and the internet for ends.  Bill

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark in Lakewood, CO
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:41 AM
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Places like NAPA and AutoZone sell steel lines in various lengths and diameters.  I've generally been able to get a piece and, using a tube bender, fabricate what I need.  There have been times I had to get a somewhat longer piece than I needed, cut it to length and then flair it.  AutoZone, for one, offers a double flaring kit as part of their "Loan-A-Tool" program.

Brake lines are not a black science, but, be aware that there are no less than 4 types of ends used around the world.  Mercedes uses the European style.  (There's also British, Japanese and SAE for American cars.)

The suggestion to find a local hydraulic sales/manufacturing outfit and have them fabricate what you need is a good one, too.

Mark in Lakewood, CO

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN_thread

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of corvallis@peoplepc.com
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Good advice. I am not afraid to bend metal brake tubing. I guess my main question was about the ends. I will check sources on eBay and the internet for ends.  Bill

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark in Lakewood, CO
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

Places like NAPA and AutoZone sell steel lines in various lengths and diameters.  I've generally been able to get a piece and, using a tube bender, fabricate what I need.  There have been times I had to get a somewhat longer piece than I needed, cut it to length and then flair it.  AutoZone, for one, offers a double flaring kit as part of their "Loan-A-Tool" program.

Brake lines are not a black science, but, be aware that there are no less than 4 types of ends used around the world.  Mercedes uses the European style.  (There's also British, Japanese and SAE for American cars.)

The suggestion to find a local hydraulic sales/manufacturing outfit and have them fabricate what you need is a good one, too.

Mark in Lakewood, CO

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Routine Cruise Control Service

 

Nate I hear you re the actuator.
The bolt is as hard to get at as the screw closest to the steering wheel, but once you have it undone (leave it in the hole so you don't have to fight putting it back) the two screws are cake.
I had to put a stuffer in the 10 mill socket so the bolt would not just dissapear into the socket. It is good to have a helper to pass stuff, cause it aint much fun under there, and you can cuss out your assistant for not knowing what you mean, instead of what you say.
Tony

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
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>
> Tony ;
>
> I cannot stress highly enough , you really should send the actuator out for service befor you wa$te $ on another amplifier and it fries .
>
> Used amplifiers are fine , not so the under hood actuator .
>
> I need to address this on SWMBO's '82 240D , I'll have to look for that single 10 MM ATF bolt as I cannot reach the two screws .
>
> I too have a terrible sciatica problem .
>
> -Nate
> Tony wrote :
> >
> > Tom, if you have a known good amplifier at a reasonable price let me know asap, I will get you to send it to my kids place in Tacoma, I can put it on there - my sciatic nerve will hold you in the highest esteem for all time.
> > Tony
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

The lines that NAPA, AutoZone, et al sell, already have the ends on them.  If you need to cut down to a length, you can remove the threaded part (after cutting, of course), and re-install it.  Then, it's just a matter of getting the flaring right....

Mark in Lakewood, CO
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Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

Good advice. I am not afraid to bend metal brake tubing. I guess my main question was about the ends. I will check sources on eBay and the internet for ends.  Bill

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark in Lakewood, CO
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

Places like NAPA and AutoZone sell steel lines in various lengths and diameters.  I've generally been able to get a piece and, using a tube bender, fabricate what I need.  There have been times I had to get a somewhat longer piece than I needed, cut it to length and then flair it.  AutoZone, for one, offers a double flaring kit as part of their "Loan-A-Tool" program.

 

Brake lines are not a black science, but, be aware that there are no less than 4 types of ends used around the world.  Mercedes uses the European style.  (There's also British, Japanese and SAE for American cars.)

 

The suggestion to find a local hydraulic sales/manufacturing outfit and have them fabricate what you need is a good one, too.

 

Mark in Lakewood, CO

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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:39:02 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

I am looking at replacing several of the metal brake lines on my 1961 190Db.These people offer brake lines, but when I enter the info into their Compatibility query, it says they won't fit the 180D or 190D, 1961 or 1962.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380483474068

I have measured the threaded fitting on my car and get 10 x 27 metric. (27 threads may not be exactly right.) I can get the short piece that runs from the master cylinder to the left front brake from Niemoeller in Europe for 5,50 € with 6,55 € shipping. 

http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-422501.html

What have others done when thinking about their old, possibly rusted on the inside, metal brake tubing?  Bill in Oregon

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

Good advice. I am not afraid to bend metal brake tubing. I guess my main question was about the ends. I will check sources on eBay and the internet for ends.  Bill

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark in Lakewood, CO
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

Places like NAPA and AutoZone sell steel lines in various lengths and diameters.  I've generally been able to get a piece and, using a tube bender, fabricate what I need.  There have been times I had to get a somewhat longer piece than I needed, cut it to length and then flair it.  AutoZone, for one, offers a double flaring kit as part of their "Loan-A-Tool" program.

 

Brake lines are not a black science, but, be aware that there are no less than 4 types of ends used around the world.  Mercedes uses the European style.  (There's also British, Japanese and SAE for American cars.)

 

The suggestion to find a local hydraulic sales/manufacturing outfit and have them fabricate what you need is a good one, too.

 

Mark in Lakewood, CO

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To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:39:02 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

I am looking at replacing several of the metal brake lines on my 1961 190Db.These people offer brake lines, but when I enter the info into their Compatibility query, it says they won't fit the 180D or 190D, 1961 or 1962.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380483474068

I have measured the threaded fitting on my car and get 10 x 27 metric. (27 threads may not be exactly right.) I can get the short piece that runs from the master cylinder to the left front brake from Niemoeller in Europe for 5,50 € with 6,55 € shipping. 

http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-422501.html

What have others done when thinking about their old, possibly rusted on the inside, metal brake tubing?  Bill in Oregon

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

Places like NAPA and AutoZone sell steel lines in various lengths and diameters.  I've generally been able to get a piece and, using a tube bender, fabricate what I need.  There have been times I had to get a somewhat longer piece than I needed, cut it to length and then flair it.  AutoZone, for one, offers a double flaring kit as part of their "Loan-A-Tool" program.

Brake lines are not a black science, but, be aware that there are no less than 4 types of ends used around the world.  Mercedes uses the European style.  (There's also British, Japanese and SAE for American cars.)

The suggestion to find a local hydraulic sales/manufacturing outfit and have them fabricate what you need is a good one, too.

Mark in Lakewood, CO
From: corvallis@peoplepc.com
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:39:02 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] metal brake line question

 

I am looking at replacing several of the metal brake lines on my 1961 190Db.

These people offer brake lines, but when I enter the info into their Compatibility query, it says they won't fit the 180D or 190D, 1961 or 1962.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380483474068

 

I have measured the threaded fitting on my car and get 10 x 27 metric. (27 threads may not be exactly right.) I can get the short piece that runs from the master cylinder to the left front brake from Niemoeller in Europe for 5,50 € with 6,55 € shipping. 

http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-422501.html

 

What have others done when thinking about their old, possibly rusted on the inside, metal brake tubing?  Bill in Oregon

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Routine Cruise Control Service

 


Tony ;

I cannot stress highly enough , you really should send the actuator out for service befor you wa$te $ on another amplifier and it fries .

Used amplifiers are fine , not so the under hood actuator .

I need to address this on SWMBO's '82 240D , I'll have to look for that single 10 MM ATF bolt as I cannot reach the two screws .

I too have a terrible sciatica problem .

-Nate
Tony wrote :
>
> Tom, if you have a known good amplifier at a reasonable price let me know asap, I will get you to send it to my kids place in Tacoma, I can put it on there - my sciatic nerve will hold you in the highest esteem for all time.
> Tony
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Good Questions

 


The only ' stupid questions ' are the ones left un asked Tony =8-)

The air filter is O.K. but prolly due for a change .

It doesn't seem to matter how much throttle I do or don't give it , it smokes black off idle .

I recently replaced the turbo and this reduced the overall smoking a lot .

I'm not sure where you got the idea I spoon the throttle.....

-Nate
Tony wrote :
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> Nate, is your turbo spooling up, fast enough to keep up with your propensity for walking on the loud pedal??? Black smoke could be poor spray pattern but if it looks like all 8 cylinders (oops 5)are blowing smoke, it may be lack of O2. Silly question knowing who I ask - how is your air cleaner?
> Tony
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Paint Issues

 


Good deal ! .

My problem is : a rust spot below the backlight , the paint looks O.K. from 20' so barring that I could prolly use the floor wax method and she'd look great but rust never sleeps......

I just don't want to get screwed again like the painter boob who damaged my red Coupe so much I had to sell it....

I like this car and have no plans to get rid of it .

-Nate
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> Hey Nathan My SD hood was all flat from no clear coat,I recleared it,she shines now.Same stuff I use on my wheels.Both have painted black centers with a metal lip, Goldy and Blackie
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: The dreaded cruise control.

 

If the actuator motor aka servo under the hood is bad, it will zap the electronic mystery box under the dash. If you have an old actuator motor/servo, you should consider replacing/rebuilding that first, then the electronic box. BTW, I have had one of the electric cords that power the actuator motor chafe through and ground out, zapping my electronic controller. It didn't do anything to the motor and I don't remember if there was even a fuse involved, I think maybe not. I wrapped the entire length of the actuator motor electric line with 1/4" fuel hose, which I slit lengthwise and zip tied over the cord, so it wouldn't happen again. Replaced the electronic box, and voila, works again. I have had as much luck buying second hand off ebay as I have had with getting mine rebuilt or buying rebuilt. Second-hand off ebay is usually around $50. I would buy a new or rebuilt actuator motor or even look into rebuilding my own, probably just needs cleaning and brushes but an alternator shop should be able to fix it for you.

Jim

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: metal brake line question

 

I recommend finding a local hose fabricating company and getting them to make you whatever you need.

Jim

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, <corvallis@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking at replacing several of the metal brake lines on my 1961 190Db.
>
> These people offer brake lines, but when I enter the info into their Compatibility query, it says they won̢۪t fit the 180D or 190D, 1961 or 1962.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380483474068
>
>
>
> I have measured the threaded fitting on my car and get 10 x 27 metric. (27 threads may not be exactly right.) I can get the short piece that runs from the master cylinder to the left front brake from Niemoeller in Europe for 5,50 € with 6,55 € shipping.
>
> http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-422501.html
>
>
>
> What have others done when thinking about their old, possibly rusted on the inside, metal brake tubing? Bill in Oregon
>

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