Diesel RVs: 10/02/12

Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

Is it a cell on the end, or a middle cell?

Maybe if is an end one, the is something bumping that cell, like the tray being loose and the inner fender is pushing in in the battery end. It could hit harmonics and turn the end cell into a makeshift vaporizer

Possibly noise could rattle the end cell wall. Any exhaust leaks or such

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From: Dean Chandler <deanstud@gmail.com>

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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:19:38 -0700

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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

No holes or other damage to the battery. You can see where the fluid has come up and out of the purge hole.

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-Dean E. Chandler

'83 300D

'86 SDL
-=KE7TWY=-
Cornelius, Oregon
deanstud@gmail.com

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, <diyernh@comcast.net> wrote:

Is there a screw or sharp edge on the firewall that cut into that cell?

Check the battery for holes, tray for sharp edges/ protruberances

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

Is there anything underneath the battery that has poked / rubbed / chafed a tiny hole or miniscule crack in the battery case ? .

Low electrolyte levels will cause the battery to be unable to start the engine .

-Nate
Dean wrote :
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> I don't post much, but I am always lingering, reading your emails. I am
> not really into the social emails, and usually when I have some advice or a
> suggestion, someone else is more knowledgeable or has responded before I
> get to the mail.
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> Luckily, my car is very reliable, and allot of things are documented out
> there. Usually I can find solutions to my problems with a quick, or
> sometimes more in depth google search.
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> This time I haven't had as good of luck.
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> About a year ago, the 300d wouldn't start, the battery was dead. I sent
> my wife to work in the Astro van, and put the car on a charger. Well the
> battery did not charge. I hardly use the SDL, and it had a battery that
> was only about a year old, so I took it and put it in the 300d.
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> Now that I had a known good battery, I tested to be sure the alt was
> charging, and it was. I also tested to see if anything was causing a drain
> with the car off, and nothing was. So, I just shrugged and decided that
> the 5 year old battery just decided to give up that morning, and left it at
> that.
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> Fast forward to a couple weeks ago (over a year from previous troubles).
> The battery is dead. Send wife to work in the astro van. Put on the
> charger. This time I look and see that one cell is low on water, and I top
> it off with distilled water. Battery charges fine. Checked alt output,
> OK, checked for ignition off drains, OK. So all is OK. weird, but I had
> always heard check batteries as they may required maint (water), I
> just haven't ever run across one needing any before.
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> I think all is well in the world, but a week later and I have the same
> problem. Battery dead (well wont start the car), I check and the same cell
> is low. I top it off and charge the battery and all is well again.
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> Repeat this procedure again and again, and it is just puking out of the one
> cell, and so here we are. I have tested the alt and it puts out about
> 14.1 so I don't think it is over charging. Odd or moaybe just coincidence
> but I still have the 6 year old battery, I went and looked at it, and it
> was empty in the same cell... This 'new' battery is over 2 years old, so
> out of the free replacement warranty.
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> -Dean E. Chandler
> '83 300D
> '86 SDL
> -=KE7TWY=-
> Cornelius, Oregon
> deanstud@...
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: rust bucket zone

It certainly is ! .

I was there @ Curboys Auto Wrecking a few years back and opened the door on an old Metropolitan Nash , it fell off in my hand....

When I were a lad , they said most waterways in New England , emptied into Ct.

Plus of course , the snow , rain and road salt all take thier toll .

-Nate
Max Ponders:
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> Is Connecticut a rust bucket state? Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: note from new member

Bill--

I have a 1957 (titled 1958) 180D Binz station wagon. It is in line behind a couple of other projects, tho...

John in the Great 208

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "wgilbert_99" <corvallis@...> wrote:
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> What is the oldest Mercedes on this site? Bill
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] rust bucket zone

yes

Tom Hanson
Mercedes Benz Classic Center USA
MBUSA, LLC
thomas.hanson@mbusa.com
949 598-4842 direct
949 598-4870 fax

From: max_stemple <jasperezra@gmail.com>
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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] rust bucket zone

Is Connecticut a rust bucket state? Max

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

No holes or other damage to the battery. You can see where the fluid has come up and out of the purge hole.

--
-Dean E. Chandler

'83 300D

'86 SDL
-=KE7TWY=-
Cornelius, Oregon
deanstud@gmail.com

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, <diyernh@comcast.net> wrote:

Is there a screw or sharp edge on the firewall that cut into that cell?

Check the battery for holes, tray for sharp edges/ protruberances

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: note from new member

66,130. What is the oldest Mercedes on this site? Bill
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--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Aleph93 <aleph93@...> wrote:
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> Bill,
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> What a nice looking car.
> How many miles?
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> Rob
> '85 300D (170k)
> Garden Grove, CA
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

Is there a screw or sharp edge on the firewall that cut into that cell?

Check the battery for holes, tray for sharp edges/ protruberances

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: Dean Chandler <deanstud@gmail.com>

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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:52:11 -0700

To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

I don't post much, but I am always lingering, reading your emails. I am not really into the social emails, and usually when I have some advice or a suggestion, someone else is more knowledgeable or has responded before I get to the mail.

Luckily, my car is very reliable, and allot of things are documented out there. Usually I can find solutions to my problems with a quick, or sometimes more in depth google search.

This time I haven't had as good of luck.

About a year ago, the 300d wouldn't start, the battery was dead. I sent my wife to work in the Astro van, and put the car on a charger. Well the battery did not charge. I hardly use the SDL, and it had a battery that was only about a year old, so I took it and put it in the 300d.

Now that I had a known good battery, I tested to be sure the alt was charging, and it was. I also tested to see if anything was causing a drain with the car off, and nothing was. So, I just shrugged and decided that the 5 year old battery just decided to give up that morning, and left it at that.

Fast forward to a couple weeks ago (over a year from previous troubles). The battery is dead. Send wife to work in the astro van. Put on the charger. This time I look and see that one cell is low on water, and I top it off with distilled water. Battery charges fine. Checked alt output, OK, checked for ignition off drains, OK. So all is OK. weird, but I had always heard check batteries as they may required maint (water), I just haven't ever run across one needing any before.

I think all is well in the world, but a week later and I have the same problem. Battery dead (well wont start the car), I check and the same cell is low. I top it off and charge the battery and all is well again.

Repeat this procedure again and again, and it is just puking out of the one cell, and so here we are. I have tested the alt and it puts out about 14.1 so I don't think it is over charging. Odd or moaybe just coincidence but I still have the 6 year old battery, I went and looked at it, and it was empty in the same cell... This 'new' battery is over 2 years old, so out of the free replacement warranty.

Ideas comments welcomed.

--
-Dean E. Chandler

'83 300D

'86 SDL
-=KE7TWY=-
Cornelius, Oregon
deanstud@gmail.com

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Luckily, my car is very reliable, and allot of things are documented out there. Usually I can find solutions to my problems with a quick, or sometimes more in depth google search.

This time I haven't had as good of luck.

Ideas comments welcomed.

--
-Dean E. Chandler

'83 300D

'86 SDL
-=KE7TWY=-
Cornelius, Oregon
deanstud@gmail.com

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery problems

Luckily, my car is very reliable, and allot of things are documented out there. Usually I can find solutions to my problems with a quick, or sometimes more in depth google search.

This time I haven't had as good of luck.

Ideas comments welcomed.

--
-Dean E. Chandler

'83 300D

'86 SDL
-=KE7TWY=-
Cornelius, Oregon
deanstud@gmail.com

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