[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : MPH & Fuel Economy

 

Hey, I have had the pleasure of riding in Nates Mercedes and can vouch for the fact that the loud pedal is his friend, We seldom went over 60mph on a very twisty steep road, at 59mph I was eyes shut and screaming. We were on our way to get a date shake & Nate wanted to get there sooner.

BTW, did about 60 miles in the Mercedes Wednesday, ahhh ____& the cruise control started working, it quit about a week after we bought the car.

Question, is cruise control dependent on vacuum?

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well ;
>
> The _only_ decent Diesel fuel economy _I_ get , is in the 240D when we're on Holiday as
>
> A. it's swmbo's car so I'm gentle with it
>
> B. I rarely exceed 60 MPH in it as her piercing shrieks tend to drown out the Blues on the CD Payer when I do that .
>
> So it's regular fuel economy ranges from the high 20's to 32 MPG's when on the open highway all day long @ 60 MPH , fully loaded and AC as cold as it'll go .
>
> My Diesel Sports Coupe , OTOH , it a horse (and Mercedes) of an entirely different color and so far it's usually only getting 23 ~ 24 MPG's , one tank it went up to 26 IIRC .
>
> So yes , decent fuel economy -is- possible , I get acceptable (IMO) economy @ 23 MPG's when I'm flat footing it , no V-8's can match that
>
> -Nate
> Blaise wrote:
> >
> > Nate, If this is so I can't imagine how you get the mileage you claim considering your driving habits!!
> > Blaise
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Nate <vwnate1@>
> > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 8:44:54 AM
> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help
> >
> >  
> >  the *instant* you go faster than 60 MPH , the fuel economy drops off sharply.... down into the low 20's in fact , remember this .
> >
> > -Nate
> >
>

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] Coil Spring Compressor ?

 

bunch of  CoilSprCompressors on EBay
 I assume they will/should/might fit most any spring

btw ...  is there any interchange for a rear coils pring that can be used in a  4 door '84 300D w123 sedan?
   or must the springs be specific to the vehicle    say, could rear rear springs from a 300D (or other #) station wagon or car fit, and perform well on this sedan?

       another ?  what is with the different sized shims?  I see them in 14mm  19mm  etc.
 any benefit, or need, to use one size vs another?

nick





On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


Since I've heard nothing , I assume it's either sold or not for sale ? .

I'll soon begin looking in Harbor Freight , pawn shops , etcetera.

-Nate


__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 

If you are looking for some good articles and some pretty good pictures re starters and solenoids - check these peachtree articles out

http://tinyurl.com/3pdf5y4

 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Barton <barton.fiske@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 10:12:43 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 

Went to show off Sylvia to a friend visiting from town, both of us climbed in, put on our seatbelts, I extolled the virtues of this fine automobile to my friend while reaching around the steering column to put the key in the ignition and fire it up one more time. Had been running/starting w/ no problems for last 2 months since getting the starter wiring harness sorted and tightened and -- when I realized this last week -- I was on the verge of sending a grinning Sylvia update, and now, well more of a grimace.

So the key goes in, the lights light up. The buzzers time out, the car goes quiet. Hit the starter - you get a solid click (assuming its the starter gear being engaged to the flywheel, or at least some sign of life in the solenoid), but no love from the heart of the starter. Just the silence of not going anywhere.

Since my friend is a second generation Dane, I was glad to know that
plan B was a "smokin" 33 year old Swedish Saab 99 Turbo. I say smokin because the head gasket is oozing a bit of oil from time to time and making the cabin air almost smell like a two-stroke. :^)

Have checked known wiring junctions and the lot - fuses, ground straps, battery leads, ignition harness from above. Tugged on the harness, rapped (gently) on starter and solenoid. Pushed car up fwd/back in/out of gear and tried starting in P and N. Ignition lockout circuit seems ok as you get no click/sound if car is in D,3,2,1. All the above and still no love.

Anyone got suggestions before I call AAA and take it my trusty local?

Given my current schedule, I won't be able to get to this until May.

cheers and thanks in advance,

-Barton

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:

[diesel_mercedes] Coil Spring Compressor ?

 


Since I've heard nothing , I assume it's either sold or not for sale ? .

I'll soon begin looking in Harbor Freight , pawn shops , etcetera.

-Nate

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:

[diesel_mercedes] Re : ' Might As Wells '

 


On the other hand , doing them allows one to routinely hop into a 35 year old vehicle and drive happily without worry.....

They're also still cheaper than payments on a new Econolux you'll hate in two years .

-Nate
Ben wrote:
>
> "...while I'm in there I might as well..." Hate those words. Cost me
> a fortune.
>
> Ben near Detroit.
>
>

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 

On 4/8/2011 6:50 PM, Nate wrote:
>
> The ' solid click ' almost certainly means the solenoid is toast....
I assume the battery voltage has been checked. Also, it is entirely
possible to have full battery voltage and not enought amperage to spin
the starter. You need a "load test" on the battery.

Percent Hydrometer Unloaded
charge reading voltage
100 1.265 12.63
75 1.210 12.30
50 1.160 12.00
25 1.120 11.76
0 1.100 11.64

--
Stan George Portland <<

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
MARKETPLACE

Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.

Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today!

.

__,_._,___
No comments:

[diesel_mercedes] Re: 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 


The ' solid click ' almost certainly means the solenoid is toast....

DO NOT buy a ' rebuilt ' solenoid ! get new only , either BOSCH or ECHLIN branded...

Or , just exchange the entire starter for a rebuilt BOSCH branded one, they always replace the solenoid with new .

Other brand rebuilts , not so much .

-Nate
Barton wrote:
>
> Went to show off Sylvia to a friend visiting from town, both of us climbed in, put on our seatbelts, I extolled the virtues of this fine automobile to my friend while reaching around the steering column to put the key in the ignition and fire it up one more time. Had been running/starting w/ no problems for last 2 months since getting the starter wiring harness sorted and tightened and -- when I realized this last week -- I was on the verge of sending a grinning Sylvia update, and now, well more of a grimace.
>
> So the key goes in, the lights light up. The buzzers time out, the car goes quiet. Hit the starter - you get a solid click (assuming its the starter gear being engaged to the flywheel, or at least some sign of life in the solenoid), but no love from the heart of the starter. Just the silence of not going anywhere.
>
> Since my friend is a second generation Dane, I was glad to know that
> plan B was a "smokin" 33 year old Swedish Saab 99 Turbo. I say smokin because the head gasket is oozing a bit of oil from time to time and making the cabin air almost smell like a two-stroke. :^)
>
> Have checked known wiring junctions and the lot - fuses, ground straps, battery leads, ignition harness from above. Tugged on the harness, rapped (gently) on starter and solenoid. Pushed car up fwd/back in/out of gear and tried starting in P and N. Ignition lockout circuit seems ok as you get no click/sound if car is in D,3,2,1. All the above and still no love.
>
> Anyone got suggestions before I call AAA and take it my trusty local?
>
> Given my current schedule, I won't be able to get to this until May.
>
> cheers and thanks in advance,
>
> -Barton
>

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
MARKETPLACE

Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog & Cat Answers Center.

Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.

.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] Phone Call

 

Tell her she not alone I do love driving mine, I  have had a full size F250 power stroke and been driving it for over 12 years.and just over the last month I have found that this car rides like a dream and gets better milage then the truck just a little bit , but it is easier to park and drive,so enjoy every one have a wonderful summer! Barry

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Don Benski <dbenski@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 

Got a call from the wife today just to tell me how much she loves driving her 300D.  Makes all those weekends under the hood worthwhile.  Have a good weekend everyone!

 

-Don in St. Louis

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
MARKETPLACE

Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today!

Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.

.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 

solenoid is a real potential here.

--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Barton <barton.fiske@gmail.com> wrote:

> Went to show off Sylvia to a friend
> visiting from town, both of us climbed in, put on our
> seatbelts, I extolled the virtues of this fine automobile to
> my friend while reaching around the steering column to put
> the key in the ignition and fire it up one more time. Had
> been running/starting w/ no problems for last 2 months since
> getting the starter wiring harness sorted and tightened and
> -- when I realized this last week -- I was on the verge of
> sending a grinning Sylvia update, and now, well more of a
> grimace.
>
> So the key goes in, the lights light up. The buzzers time
> out, the car goes quiet. Hit the starter - you get a solid
> click (assuming its the starter gear being engaged to the
> flywheel, or at least some sign of life in the solenoid),
> but no love from the heart of the starter. Just the silence
> of not going anywhere.
>
> Since my friend is a second generation Dane, I was glad to
> know that
> plan B was a "smokin" 33 year old Swedish Saab 99 Turbo. I
> say smokin because the head gasket is oozing a bit of oil
> from time to time and making the cabin air almost smell like
> a two-stroke. :^)
>
> Have checked known wiring junctions and the lot - fuses,
> ground straps, battery leads, ignition harness from above.
> Tugged on the harness, rapped (gently) on starter and
> solenoid. Pushed car up fwd/back in/out of gear and tried
> starting in P and N. Ignition lockout circuit seems ok as
> you get no click/sound if car is in D,3,2,1. All the above
> and still no love.
>
> Anyone got suggestions before I call AAA and take it my
> trusty local?
>
> Given my current schedule, I won't be able to get to this
> until May.
>
> cheers and thanks in advance,
>
> -Barton
>

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
MARKETPLACE

Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today!

Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.

.

__,_._,___
No comments:

[diesel_mercedes] Phone Call

 

Got a call from the wife today just to tell me how much she loves driving her 300D.  Makes all those weekends under the hood worthwhile.  Have a good weekend everyone!

 

-Don in St. Louis

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
MARKETPLACE

Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.

Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog & Cat Answers Center.

.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : MPH & Fuel Economy

 

My 1983 300D was consistently getting close to 30 MPG mixed driving but mostly highway before I pulled it off the road to fix the problems I described yesterday. I do add a gallon of kerosene and 6 ozs each Howe's & MMO on every fill up.
Blaise

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 10:46:46 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : MPH & Fuel Economy

 


Well ;

The _only_ decent Diesel fuel economy _I_ get , is in the 240D when we're on Holiday as

A. it's swmbo's car so I'm gentle with it

B. I rarely exceed 60 MPH in it as her piercing shrieks tend to drown out the Blues on the CD Payer when I do that .

So it's regular fuel economy ranges from the high 20's to 32 MPG's when on the open highway all day long @ 60 MPH , fully loaded and AC as cold as it'll go .

My Diesel Sports Coupe , OTOH , it a horse (and Mercedes) of an entirely different color and so far it's usually only getting 23 ~ 24 MPG's , one tank it went up to 26 IIRC .

So yes , decent fuel economy -is- possible , I get acceptable (IMO) economy @ 23 MPG's when I'm flat footing it , no V-8's can match that

-Nate
Blaise wrote:
>
> Nate, If this is so I can't imagine how you get the mileage you claim considering your driving habits!!
> Blaise
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nate <vwnate1@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 8:44:54 AM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help
>
>  
>  the *instant* you go faster than 60 MPH , the fuel economy drops off sharply.... down into the low 20's in fact , remember this .
>
> -Nate
>

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
MARKETPLACE

Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today!

Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.

.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 


 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Barton <barton.fiske@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 10:12:43 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 84 300 SD - Will me starter woes ever stop?

 

Went to show off Sylvia to a friend visiting from town, both of us climbed in, put on our seatbelts, I extolled the virtues of this fine automobile to my friend while reaching around the steering column to put the key in the ignition and fire it up one more time. Had been running/starting w/ no problems for last 2 months since getting the starter wiring harness sorted and tightened and -- when I realized this last week -- I was on the verge of sending a grinning Sylvia update, and now, well more of a grimace.

So the key goes in, the lights light up. The buzzers time out, the car goes quiet. Hit the starter - you get a solid click (assuming its the starter gear being engaged to the flywheel, or at least some sign of life in the solenoid), but no love from the heart of the starter. Just the silence of not going anywhere.

Since my friend is a second generation Dane, I was glad to know that
plan B was a "smokin" 33 year old Swedish Saab 99 Turbo. I say smokin because the head gasket is oozing a bit of oil from time to time and making the cabin air almost smell like a two-stroke. :^)

Have checked known wiring junctions and the lot - fuses, ground straps, battery leads, ignition harness from above. Tugged on the harness, rapped (gently) on starter and solenoid. Pushed car up fwd/back in/out of gear and tried starting in P and N. Ignition lockout circuit seems ok as you get no click/sound if car is in D,3,2,1. All the above and still no love.

Anyone got suggestions before I call AAA and take it my trusty local?

Given my current schedule, I won't be able to get to this until May.

cheers and thanks in advance,

-Barton

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:

Re: [diesel_mercedes] progress? report

 

"...while I'm in there I might as well..." Hate those words. Cost me
a fortune.

Ben near Detroit.

On 4/8/2011 1:57 PM, Blaise Colasante wrote:
> Hi Ben, I've only done routine stuff under the hood so far. I've got
> the timing chain & new Monarch injectors to install. There are some
> vacuum issues that affect the door locks & occasionally engine shutoff
> to work through. Then engine & transmission pan gaskets, some hoses,
> injector return lines, PS & coolant flush etc unless one thing leads
> to another!!
> Blaise
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
> *To:* diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, April 7, 2011 9:07:12 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [diesel_mercedes] progress? report [2 Attachments]
>
> I feel ya Blaise. Hopefully the head and turbo will be back in the
> next day or so and I can start putting this thing back together. Have
> had the radiator redone, starter rebuilt, new water pump, rebuilt
> vacuum pump, new head (including prechambers) and rebuilt/rebalanced
> the turbo.
>
> Hopefully I can get it all back together too!
>
> Ben near Detroit
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Blaise Colasante
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:51 PM
> *To:* diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [diesel_mercedes] progress? report
>
> Well, there's truth in the addage "There's nothing more expensive than
> a cheap Mercedes"!! A year ago I removed the rear windshield &
> replaced the seal to stop water getting into my trunk. I also replaced
> the trunk seal for good measure as it was showing evidence of yielding
> to the elements in the near term. A few months ago I started loosing
> power on slight inclines & discovered the dreaded black fuel fungus
> had taken up residence in my fuel tank. It was BAD so I decided to
> drop the fuel tank and get it boiled out at the radiator shop.
>
> While draining the tank I noticed fuel dripping from the left rear
> control arm. Fuel supply line was nearly rusted through where it goes
> over the control arm and had broken during efforts to remove the tank.
> The fuel return line & brake line were in similarly bad condition.
> Better to make this discovery in the driveway at home than anywhere
> else! I also had the opportunity to observe that the CV joint boots
> were badly torn, devoid of essential lubrication & also in need of
> replacement. Not knowing the condition of said CV joints I determined
> to order two new axles & replace the entire units. After the old axles
> were out I could inspect the CV joints to decide on their ultimate
> fate. Of course at that time the weather here in the NE was beginning
> its seasonal decline into winter which would put said projects on hold
> until spring as I have no indoor facilities to accomplish these efforts.
>
> At Christmas a friend with a two bay tractor trailer garage who uses
> one bay for his manufacturing business had me over to see his shop.
> Taking note that he has an entirely empty bay I asked if I could bring
> my ailing old 300D into the bay to do some repairs that would
> otherwise have to wait for warmer weather. We decided I could trade
> assistance to his business in trade for accomodations for the Mercedes.
>
> I plumbed a 1 gallon empty oil jug into the fuel system under the hood
> as a short distance fuel tank (since the fuel tank had not been
> reinstalled & the fuel lines had not been replaced) & drove the 3
> miles from home to the shop. In our spacious, heated & well lit
> accomodations the axles were readily removed and the fuel lines
> removed & duplicated (yes, I did use a bubble flare tool to make the
> connections for the master cylinder and the rear Tee connection). In
> removing the axles it was determined that it would be prudent to
> replace the axle seals in the differential. The pinion seal was also
> found wanting. Since I don't have the tools to remove the pinion shaft
> seal & check and reset the pinion shaft preload I decided to drop the
> rear and get it to a small independent Mercedes shop to accomplish this.
>
> I didn't feel secure under the car attempting to remove the
> differential while it was on jack stands so I built a set of
> stackable, interlocking wooden cribbing boxes to support the car and
> also several to put under the floor jack to raise the car about 20
> inches off the ground giving me more ample room to work and providing
> a rock solid, non-slip support for the car. In removing the four nuts
> securing the differential to the frame I needed an 18" cheater pipe on
> the 1/2" drive breaker bar to loosen them. When I thought all was
> going smoothly the seemed to get hard to turn again & then came out
> more easily. The exposed ends of the studs were so badly peened &
> rusted that I actually removed the studs from the differential case.
> New studs & nuts will replace them on reassembly.
>
> After removing the exhaust pipe as a unit and beginning to remove the
> drive shaft I discovered that my tool box lacked the 41mm & 46 mm
> wrenches to loosen the nuts that secure the front & rear drive shaft
> sections. Order from Ebay. The rubber of the drive shaft support
> bearing was almost completely disintegrated and the transmission
> support had many radial cracks in the rubber so these were ordered &
> that task added to the work order. Also noted the absence of both
> automatic transmission shift linkage bushings. Thankfully both flex
> discs were in excellent condition.
>
> While getting the rear wheels off to remove the axles I noticed that
> the left parking brake shoes had only a paper thin coating of brake
> material and on inspecting the right side I found only the badly
> rusted remains of the brake shoe minus any vestige of brake material.
> I added those to the outgoing order for rear wheel bearing/seal kits.
> I have removed the wheel hubs, seals & inner/outer bearing outer
> races. The bearings are in good condition at 250,000+ miles but since
> everything is apart and the crush washer needs to be replaced on
> reassembly it just made sense to replace the wheel bearings and
> install new grease. The hubs & the differential are going tomorrow to
> have work done at the shop and then reassembly begins!! Until then
> there are some sections of floor pan to replace, trunk wheel wells to
> patch and various other rusted nastiness to fix. I see a MIG welder in
> my future...I'm not happy pop riveting to repair body panels and even
> though I can stick weld thin metal with 1/16" 6013 rods the MIG makes
> it so much easier.
>
> The FSM that I downloaded with help from the group, the Peachparts
> forum DIY archive and questions answered here have been really helpful
> in getting this far. Thanks to all. Now, if I can just get it all back
> together!!!!
>
> Blaise
>
>

__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___
No comments:
Subscribe to: Posts (Atom)