[diesel_mercedes] Re : MPH & Fuel Economy

 


Sportster ? like an old IronHead ? .

Cool .

-Nate
(who ran PanHeads & KnuckleHeads long ago)

Mark wrote:
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Excessive Diesel Fuel Co$t$

 


TRUTH ! .

Like it or not .

-Nate
Tony wrote:
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> Heard a radio interview (coupla years ago) on CBC radio, with a high mucky muck from one of the big oilies. What it boiled down to was that diesel costs more at the pump, simply because they can get it.
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: town day

 


Oh that ~

Well , it helps keep my heel from sliding around when my good friends are getting me to roar down remote gravel roads in the middle of nowhere whilst my cheeks are clenching and the banjos play distantly....... =8-) .

-Nate
Tony wrote:
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[diesel_mercedes] MB Identification

 

Someone was wanting a identification locator. Here is one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcYQzWQkSIQ

I have several lists which came from somewhere if anyone is lost without a compass, but you can find them on google or other locations - even the old russian database

brian from la verne

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

They will have to pry my W116 from my cold, dead hands.

 

Ben near Detroit

 


From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lost but making good time.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:17 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

 

Every time a commodity rises in price, engineers and scientists work out ways to keep things running using less of it or some other product. True for gold, silver, copper, oil, etc., Bucky Fuller pointed this out years ago.
Bio fuels, and electrics are on the near horizon, our beloved Mercedes are a thing of the past, I doubt they will be available for the next generation, but mine should last me the rest of my life and I'm ok with that.
Tony

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, briankk <briankk@...> wrote:
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> Ah yes, BUT..the price of oil and the collapse the dollar are both intentional and political.  Will the price of oil have to go to $6, or $10, before you give up your Mercedes for some politically correct electric car?
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> --- On Mon, 5/2/11, SHAWN BAIRD <shawnabaird1@...> wrote:
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> From: SHAWN BAIRD <shawnabaird1@...>
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
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> From: bgiovan <bgiovan@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
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> From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Boucher
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> From: "bobthevan" <conrad.jacoby@...>
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> To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
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> > Naphtha is sold a paint thinner, "Zippo" fuel, charcoal starter,
> etc.
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> naphtha? If I remember correctly, Coleman's official position is that the
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> fuel burns cleaner than regular unleaded gasoline because it doesn't have
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> the additives and cracked hydrocarbons in it that can leave residue. Your
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> local WalMart may carry "Ozark Trails" brand Coleman-compatible fuel,
> if you
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> want to save a few additional bucks over brand-name product. However, I
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> noticed that the Walmart I happened to visit today no longer stocks it,
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> though they did have small jugs of Coleman brand fuel. Me, I buy the stuff
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> by the gallon when I do. It has an official shelf life of 5-7 years before
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> --Conrad J.
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> On a somewhat related topic the April 18 Issue
> of Business Week Has an article titled "The Battle Royale for  Super
> Corn which addresses the ethanol issue.
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

Every time a commodity rises in price, engineers and scientists work out ways to keep things running using less of it or some other product. True for gold, silver, copper, oil, etc., Bucky Fuller pointed this out years ago.
Bio fuels, and electrics are on the near horizon, our beloved Mercedes are a thing of the past, I doubt they will be available for the next generation, but mine should last me the rest of my life and I'm ok with that.
Tony

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, briankk <briankk@...> wrote:
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> Ah yes, BUT..the price of oil and the collapse the dollar are both intentional and political.  Will the price of oil have to go to $6, or $10, before you give up your Mercedes for some politically correct electric car?
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> bk
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> --- On Mon, 5/2/11, SHAWN BAIRD <shawnabaird1@...> wrote:
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> From: SHAWN BAIRD <shawnabaird1@...>
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 6:51 AM
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> Shawn near Columbus
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> From: bgiovan <bgiovan@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:29:30 AM
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> From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Boucher
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> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:11 AM
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> Seems we may be zeroing in on a fuel stabilizer formula?
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "bobthevan" <conrad.jacoby@...>
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> To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 6:46 PM
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> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel
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> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com,
> Mark Atkins <mratkins@> wrote:
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> > Naphtha is sold a paint thinner, "Zippo" fuel, charcoal starter,
> etc.
>
> > and is the product referenced as "petroleum distillates" in a
> lot of
>
> > other products. It is a generic term for a product with a boiling range
>
> > of 100 degrees (+/-) to <400 degrees. What that means is that it is
>
> > typically a "gasoline" consistency material that has not been
> "cracked".
>
> >
>
> > Check out your paint aisle in Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. for thinners that
>
> > say the ingredients are "naphtha".
>
>
>
> Isn't old-school Coleman stove/lantern fuel (aka "white gasoline")
> also
>
> naphtha? If I remember correctly, Coleman's official position is that the
>
> fuel burns cleaner than regular unleaded gasoline because it doesn't have
>
> the additives and cracked hydrocarbons in it that can leave residue. Your
>
> local WalMart may carry "Ozark Trails" brand Coleman-compatible fuel,
> if you
>
> want to save a few additional bucks over brand-name product. However, I
>
> noticed that the Walmart I happened to visit today no longer stocks it,
>
> though they did have small jugs of Coleman brand fuel. Me, I buy the stuff
>
> by the gallon when I do. It has an official shelf life of 5-7 years before
>
> denaturing, and I know people who have used much older fuel than that.
>
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> --Conrad J.
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>
> On a somewhat related topic the April 18 Issue
> of Business Week Has an article titled "The Battle Royale for  Super
> Corn which addresses the ethanol issue.
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

Ah yes, BUT..the price of oil and the collapse the dollar are both intentional and political.  Will the price of oil have to go to $6, or $10, before you give up your Mercedes for some politically correct electric car?

bk

--- On Mon, 5/2/11, SHAWN BAIRD <shawnabaird1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: SHAWN BAIRD <shawnabaird1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 6:51 AM

 

My intent is to make a factual statement with an economic bent, and hopefully the politics will stay out of it. 

Another factor in the rising cost of fuel is because the dollar is the worlds reserve currency, and oil is bought/sold in dollars, oil costs more when the dollar is devalued.  The biggest reason why America has been able to access cheaper energy than the rest of the world is because we get to buy oil in dollars, while Germany, for example, has to buy dollars before it can buy oil.  With the era of the dollar nearing an end and multiple countries calling for an end of the dollar as the reserve currency, we are only getting a taste of whats coming. 

Shawn near Columbus
'84 300D
143k





From: bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:29:30 AM
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

This thread has taken more turns than a hooker on Saturday night.  Thank you from resurrecting it from politics.  I get enough of that tired meme in my daily life.  Come here to hide.

 

Ben near Detroit .

 


From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Boucher
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:11 AM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

 

On 4/30/2011 11:38 PM, ygmir111 wrote:

 

interesting, thanks Conrad.
Seems we may be zeroing in on a fuel stabilizer formula?

----- Original Message -----
From: "bobthevan" <conrad.jacoby@gmail.com>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Mark Atkins <mratkins@...> wrote:

> Naphtha is sold a paint thinner, "Zippo" fuel, charcoal starter, etc.
> and is the product referenced as "petroleum distillates" in a lot of
> other products. It is a generic term for a product with a boiling range
> of 100 degrees (+/-) to <400 degrees. What that means is that it is
> typically a "gasoline" consistency material that has not been "cracked".
>
> Check out your paint aisle in Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. for thinners that
> say the ingredients are "naphtha".

Isn't old-school Coleman stove/lantern fuel (aka "white gasoline") also
naphtha? If I remember correctly, Coleman's official position is that the
fuel burns cleaner than regular unleaded gasoline because it doesn't have
the additives and cracked hydrocarbons in it that can leave residue. Your
local WalMart may carry "Ozark Trails" brand Coleman-compatible fuel, if you
want to save a few additional bucks over brand-name product. However, I
noticed that the Walmart I happened to visit today no longer stocks it,
though they did have small jugs of Coleman brand fuel. Me, I buy the stuff
by the gallon when I do. It has an official shelf life of 5-7 years before
denaturing, and I know people who have used much older fuel than that.

--Conrad J.

On a somewhat related topic the April 18 Issue of Business Week Has an article titled "The Battle Royale for  Super Corn which addresses the ethanol issue.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

My intent is to make a factual statement with an economic bent, and hopefully the politics will stay out of it. 

Another factor in the rising cost of fuel is because the dollar is the worlds reserve currency, and oil is bought/sold in dollars, oil costs more when the dollar is devalued.  The biggest reason why America has been able to access cheaper energy than the rest of the world is because we get to buy oil in dollars, while Germany, for example, has to buy dollars before it can buy oil.  With the era of the dollar nearing an end and multiple countries calling for an end of the dollar as the reserve currency, we are only getting a taste of whats coming. 

Shawn near Columbus
'84 300D
143k





From: bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:29:30 AM
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

This thread has taken more turns than a hooker on Saturday night.  Thank you from resurrecting it from politics.  I get enough of that tired meme in my daily life.  Come here to hide.

 

Ben near Detroit .

 


From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Boucher
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:11 AM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

 

 

On 4/30/2011 11:38 PM, ygmir111 wrote:

 

interesting, thanks Conrad.
Seems we may be zeroing in on a fuel stabilizer formula?

----- Original Message -----
From: "bobthevan" <conrad.jacoby@gmail.com>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: fuel

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Mark Atkins <mratkins@...> wrote:

> Naphtha is sold a paint thinner, "Zippo" fuel, charcoal starter, etc.
> and is the product referenced as "petroleum distillates" in a lot of
> other products. It is a generic term for a product with a boiling range
> of 100 degrees (+/-) to <400 degrees. What that means is that it is
> typically a "gasoline" consistency material that has not been "cracked".
>
> Check out your paint aisle in Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. for thinners that
> say the ingredients are "naphtha".

Isn't old-school Coleman stove/lantern fuel (aka "white gasoline") also
naphtha? If I remember correctly, Coleman's official position is that the
fuel burns cleaner than regular unleaded gasoline because it doesn't have
the additives and cracked hydrocarbons in it that can leave residue. Your
local WalMart may carry "Ozark Trails" brand Coleman-compatible fuel, if you
want to save a few additional bucks over brand-name product. However, I
noticed that the Walmart I happened to visit today no longer stocks it,
though they did have small jugs of Coleman brand fuel. Me, I buy the stuff
by the gallon when I do. It has an official shelf life of 5-7 years before
denaturing, and I know people who have used much older fuel than that.

--Conrad J.

On a somewhat related topic the April 18 Issue of Business Week Has an article titled "The Battle Royale for  Super Corn which addresses the ethanol issue.

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