Some corrections here :
#1 : Scooters have tiny, 8" wheels and so have totally different riding dynamics , I have seen many crash and those who know them have told me they're worried I'll want to ride a Scooter too fast and so crash it .
#2: : _I'm_ the guy who lobbied endlessly and relentlessly until the V.J.L.A. tried riding tiny little Motos to Death Valley, they all had standard if very skinny Motocycle wheels and tires . I LOVE tiny Motocycles, am not sure about Scooters . no 'fast & loose' with any terms here .
Brendan, a decades long Scooter Enthusiast, once rode a classic Scooter to Death Valley and had a whale of a good time .
He tends to ride a bit slower than I do, this is an important distinction to me as I've witnessed too many Motocycle crashes and deaths up close and personal, not talking about my mishaps here, others . point being : I try to ride safely and conservatively .
Yes, I made a serious mistake in not recognizing how tired I was when I saddled up for that last, short, fateful ride that didn't -quite- make it home .
I've been riding and driveing long distances for decades now and I have no problems stopping for a nap anytime I feel tired .
I mis judged and that was a mistake that could have cost me my life .
I'm ready to die at any given moment yes but I'm _NOT_ in any hurry ! .
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated here .
-Nate
(getting ready to snooze in Brawley, Ca.so I'll be wide awake to - morrow when I tackle more Desert back roads)
Tom wrote:
Let's not play fast and loose with terms here. What is the "mistake" you hope not to repeat?
You went out for a ride. Was that a mistake? It turned into a LOOOONG ride, because you were having fun. Was that a mistake? You fell asleep. Was that a mistake?
The first doesn't seem like a mistake. If it was, that is EXACTLY what you are talking about repeating.
The second might be a mistake, depending on circumstances. But not necessarily.
The third sounds like a natural bodily reaction to fatigue. Again, not a mistake.
It sounds like making a mistake to automatically dismiss all smaller bikes as "patently and inherently dangerous scooters." It sounds like creating a definition of bikes that you don't want to ride as "dangerous" to justify the choice you want to make.
Most of the bikes that go on the annual VJLA ride to Death Valley are smaller than the Ural you want.
Tam
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The general hope is I won't repeat that mistake .
If I do then that's that : I'll either die or live .
Jr. says he doesn't want me on another full size Bike but it'O.K. if I ride a patently and inherently dangerous scooter.....
I think I'll just mull it over a few dayze, as Tom mentions I can't really afford it but I do want to ride again A.S.A.P. .
-Nate
Various People Said :
"What happens when you crash this one?"
I wrote:
" Looks sweet to me.\uD83D\uDE0B "
"You are crazy but that's why you should get it!"
" Nice bike!"
"You say "ugh" to the color, and say you can't afford it. And you still hobble around from the last crash."Crazy"? Yes."
Etcetera .
-Nate
So I'm looking at used ones I might could possibly afford.....
? Whatchu think of this ? :
It's the same year and model that I crashed on last year, different color (ugh) but if I can squeeze them down to $3,000.00 (that's a LOT of $ for me) I think I can swing it and it has very few miles....
-Nate
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