Re: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Many of the farmers in Ireland do this; they even drive their tractors around the small villages. Over there, and in GB, there are big fines for driving with anything but taxed fuel. The authorities calculate the tax owed based in the mileage of the car, from what I have heard, they randomly "stick" diesel passenger autos. At one point a few years ago, it was cheaper to buy fryer oil in the supermarket than to buy oil at the "gas" station, so many people did this...it was a big story in the British press.
 
Now here's my plan.  Buy a nice tractor, something with 4 wheel drive, if you live where it's needed ,enclosed cab with AC and all the other stuff they load on to impress farmers and drive that.  Your red fuel should then be legal.  You can plant a few petunias and a cornstalk or two to qualify as a farm.



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

On 3/10/2011 5:07 PM, BStromsoe wrote:

 
I think you will hear from our farmers and ranchers that "red" diesel is untaxed (or low taxed) diesel used for off-road things like tractors. Not that it is bad, just that some states don't like to using it on the highway and defeating the state in its inexorable quest to squeeze to dry as a bone.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Greg Arrambide <rio78840@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 1:46:54 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Anyone heard of green diesel which is what is at the pump yes right, now how about red diesel? I was offered a cheap price per gallon, but as far as they explained to me is that it is agricultural diesel only for that type of machinery not for highway use? What is anyones take on this

Greg Arrambide
1984 MB 300SD
Del Rio, Texas 78840
 


Now here's my plan.  Buy a nice tractor, something with 4 wheel drive, if you live where it's needed ,enclosed cab with AC and all the other stuff they load on to impress farmers and drive that.  Your red fuel should then be legal.  You can plant a few petunias and a cornstalk or two to qualify as a farm.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Listen to Steffen.  It is illegal to use untaxed fuel on the roadway, and if you are caught, you will more than pay for your "savings" in a hefty fine.  If you want to save on fuel costs, there are some extremely knowledgeable people on here who can point you in the right direction with regards to making/mixing your own fuels. 


From: Steffen Moller <dkstef_23832@hotmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 5:01:30 PM
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Unless You are villing to pay ONE H**L of a fine, go for it ! But it could be very expensive, I'm speaking from experience!!!!!
Steffen 

To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: rio78840@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:54 -0800
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 
Anyone heard of green diesel which is what is at the pump yes right, now how about red diesel? I was offered a cheap price per gallon, but as far as they explained to me is that it is agricultural diesel only for that type of machinery not for highway use? What is anyones take on this

Greg Arrambide
1984 MB 300SD
Del Rio, Texas 78840
 


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

I think you will hear from our farmers and ranchers that "red" diesel is untaxed (or low taxed) diesel used for off-road things like tractors. Not that it is bad, just that some states don't like to using it on the highway and defeating the state in its inexorable quest to squeeze to dry as a bone.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Greg Arrambide <rio78840@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 1:46:54 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Anyone heard of green diesel which is what is at the pump yes right, now how about red diesel? I was offered a cheap price per gallon, but as far as they explained to me is that it is agricultural diesel only for that type of machinery not for highway use? What is anyones take on this

Greg Arrambide
1984 MB 300SD
Del Rio, Texas 78840
 


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RE: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Unless You are villing to pay ONE H**L of a fine, go for it ! But it could be very expensive, I'm speaking from experience!!!!!
Steffen 

To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: rio78840@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:54 -0800
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 
Anyone heard of green diesel which is what is at the pump yes right, now how about red diesel? I was offered a cheap price per gallon, but as far as they explained to me is that it is agricultural diesel only for that type of machinery not for highway use? What is anyones take on this

Greg Arrambide
1984 MB 300SD
Del Rio, Texas 78840
 


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Greg, when I joined the forum about 6 years ago, the this was the topic I remember being discussed. Supposedly, the green stuff is for off road use and the  red stuff is home heating oil; from what I understand both are untaxed.

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, Greg Arrambide <rio78840@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Greg Arrambide <rio78840@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 4:46 PM



Anyone heard of green diesel which is what is at the pump yes right, now how about red diesel? I was offered a cheap price per gallon, but as far as they explained to me is that it is agricultural diesel only for that type of machinery not for highway use? What is anyones take on this

Greg Arrambide
1984 MB 300SD
Del Rio, Texas 78840
 




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[diesel_mercedes] All this talk about diesel

 

Anyone heard of green diesel which is what is at the pump yes right, now how about red diesel? I was offered a cheap price per gallon, but as far as they explained to me is that it is agricultural diesel only for that type of machinery not for highway use? What is anyones take on this

Greg Arrambide
1984 MB 300SD
Del Rio, Texas 78840
 

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Detroit engine seizure

 



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@...> wrote:
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> Max,
>
> Back in the good old days - two or three years ago - diesel at the pump was
> low sulfur. Now, from the pump, it is ultra low sulfur.
>
> That small reduction is enough to remove the lubrication the engine needs.
> The practical solution is to add biodiesel. Even 5% is enough to restore
> the lost lubricity.
>
> (I guess the IP, the injectors, and the engine internals need the improved
> lubricity.)
>
> The sad part is that is not illegal to sell low sulfur diesel. It is only
> illegal to put it in a 2009 or later car or truck. So everyone is paying a
> higher cost per gallon and risking damage to their engines for the benefit
> of a small percentage of drivers. Almost enough to make you believe in
> conspiracy theories.
>
> Bobby
>
>Yea, even off road around here is ULSD. Max

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Detroit engine seizure

 



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
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> Max, how near Colville are you?
> What I am being told by the Detroit mechanics about idling, is that as the cylinder cools, the walls are washed with fuel, now that there is less sulpher, there is less lubricant in the fuel, thus causing more wear than in the past. Not likely to be catastrophic but increases the wear more.
>
>
>Ahhhhhhhh, OK. 25 miles from Colville. In Onion Creek. About half way between Colville and Northport. It's stopped snowing. It's over now. Now it's rain . Let the melt began. Max

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