Re: [diesel_mercedes] The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 

You can borrow mine if I get them back :-)  Kent has a set on his site: http://www.mercedessource.com/node/715


Ben near Detroit



From: Aleph93 <aleph93@ca.rr.com>
Reply-To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:30:53 -0800
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 

Yes, there are a pair of special bent 14mm wrenches that make it easier.
The guy who made mine is still on this list, though I haven't seen any
posts from him in awhile. (Jeff Fennema) I'll email him to see if he'd
make more for the group.

If you have a Oxyacetylene torch, you can bend them yourself ___i---

Rob
Garden Grove, CA

On 1/6/12 1:58 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> The right wrench for the valve adjustment
> Posted by: "Trish Dougherty"purrfectharmonyfarm@wifi45.com patricia_dougherty
> Date: Thu Jan 5, 2012 12:15 pm ((PST))
>
> I watched the video on MS and have recall it being said on here that you
> MUST have the right wrench to adjust the valves. Isn't there someone on
> here that makes them too? If these are necessary then I need them ASAP.
>
> Thanks gang.
>
>
> The "other" female (vbg)
> -- Trish Dougherty PurrFect Harmony Farm Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 

Yes, there are a pair of special bent 14mm wrenches that make it easier.
The guy who made mine is still on this list, though I haven't seen any
posts from him in awhile. (Jeff Fennema) I'll email him to see if he'd
make more for the group.

If you have a Oxyacetylene torch, you can bend them yourself ___i---

Rob
Garden Grove, CA

On 1/6/12 1:58 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> The right wrench for the valve adjustment
> Posted by: "Trish Dougherty"purrfectharmonyfarm@wifi45.com patricia_dougherty
> Date: Thu Jan 5, 2012 12:15 pm ((PST))
>
> I watched the video on MS and have recall it being said on here that you
> MUST have the right wrench to adjust the valves. Isn't there someone on
> here that makes them too? If these are necessary then I need them ASAP.
>
> Thanks gang.
>
>
> The "other" female (vbg)
> -- Trish Dougherty PurrFect Harmony Farm Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment - To Chip

 



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Chip <czulli@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I'll get them in the mail this weekend Trish.

Chip
Houston

I did stipulate that these wrenches only work for men didn't I? Women and valve adjustments just don't seem to work.

You are tooo funny!  Just how many women do you know that have attempted valve adjustments?

Did I really plan to help or was that my ploy to get Kevin to do most of the work????

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment - To Chip

 

I'll get them in the mail this weekend Trish.

Chip
Houston

I did stipulate that these wrenches only work for men didn't I? Women and valve adjustments just don't seem to work.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Trish Dougherty <purrfectharmonyfarm@...> wrote:
>
> Chip,
>
> Really??? WOW, thank you. We're just up the road from you off of I-45. I
> just called Kevin, he says he'll need them by next weekend. *sigh* I was
> hoping, (but not expecting) to be back on the road before then. :(
>
> Snail mail: Trish Dougherty, 3039 FM 85, Ennis, TX 75119
>
> Maybe we'll take a road trip to return them!
>
> I'm fixing his favorite dinner tonight for all of the aggravation over this
> "easy" motor swap. I wanted to help, but he's done most of the work.
>
> I may be a female, but in my family we weren't allowed to drive until we
> could change the oil & a tire. I got the application for my learners permit
> when I turned 16, not a car! After I took drivers ed and got my license
> that summer I was allowed to borrow my parents '70 Delta 88, (Do you KNOW
> what kind of motor that car had???? What were they thinking?) but I had to
> write down the mileage and pay .07 per mile and replace any used gas!
>
> Many years later I had a Pacer. Yes, the aquarium/roller skate car. My
> water pump went out. I got home from work one afternoon to find my dad had
> taken my car apart, laying each piece out the way it had to go back in! I
> had to hurry because it was starting to snow and we had no garage or
> carport!
>
> Years later I bought a '67 Mustang for $600 that had been sitting in my
> landlords pasture. I did most of the restoration work myself. It was much
> like this car. Hunting for that one piece, connecting with others like
> minded.
>
> I loved my brand new T-birds, but they wore out. I'm looking forward to
> years of enjoyment out of this car for the payment of proper maintenance.
>
>
>
> > *From:* Chip <czulli@...>
> > *To:* diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2012 11:43 AM
> > *Subject:* [diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment
> >
> >
> > Trish,
> >
> > I'll be happy to loan you guys the wrenches that are used on the valve
> > adjustment, along with the book and gauges that Mercedes Source provides
> > for this job. I should be able to get them to you within a day or two at
> > most.
> >
> > I'll need a mailing address, but I'll be glad to send them your way.
> > It should be everything Kevin will need to get your valves adjusted.
> >
> > Chip
> > Houston
> >
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : 300TD wagon -- turbo?

 

Hi Alan and welcome to the group!  I too am a newbie to MB.

Had to comment on the VW bug...'63 with a tear top, 3 different colors of blue, no brakes, had to push start it, back wing window punched out by former owner. All for $300!  That was the first car I paid for.

Anyhow...I looked into VW Bug diesels a few years ago. Very roomy, comfortable, spunky.  Waaaay expensive!  New was $26K!  Then they banned them from the US for a year due to the motor.  I can't remember what it was all about.  I had a mechanic friend that said they are junk and every time they come into his shop it's automatically $1K!  Yikes!  

On the other hand, Kevin had a VW before we met. He loved it and to this day wishes he still had it.  I think it was a rabbit.  My old bug ran and ran on paper clips and bailing wire! (and crossed fingers)


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Valve Adjustment Adventures

 

Hey Brian,

No  children here to put up as ransom!  We weren't about to go down that path!  Twins on both sides and it's our generation!  Oh no.  That and we were late bloomers...I was 42 when we got married, no kids or former marriages for either of us.

However, if you took one of my dogs or cats...we'd have a discussion!  Depending on which one....

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

4.  Some of us might "loan" you ours if you put a child up as ransom.
 


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : 300TD wagon -- turbo?

 

Thanks everyone for the welcome and tips. Thanks Rob for that link to the list of engines/models.

> the turbo is a big alloy snail looking thing under the air cleaner on the right side of the engine

Great; that's what I'll look for.

> Also , look closely under the rear side windows , rocker panels and battery tray for any rust holes ~ by the time you see bubbles or pin holes , it's *VERY* serious .

OK, good to know. I also read the jacking points are problem areas. Is that the same thing you are mentioning for the rocker panels, or in addition?

> In closing : BEWARE the ' cheap ' Mercedes ! it will always be the MO$T EXPEN$IVE CAR YOU EVER OWN ! . (but , you'll polly love it anyway , I do)

Well, I'm definitely thinking that over. I certainly believe that a good Mercedes mechanic will be expensive. For those doing their own work, does the adage still hold true?

I've also been reading up on VW diesels. They have a devoted fan base too, but it sure seems from anecdotes that VW reliability in the last decade or two does not live up to their historic reputation. My wife got a big grin when she saw a New Beetle TDI for sale in the paper because she always thought they looked cute, but I'm leery of how many stories I've heard of people having all kinds of expensive problems. Sounds like TDI engine is good, rest of the car is questionable. Seems like people love the cars so much they put up with all the issues. I guess I've been spoiled by my Hondas which have been simple, reliable and cheap to maintain. If diesel Hondas were common in the US I'd pick that in a heartbeat, but no such animal here.

My main candidates I'm mulling over are a Rabbit, Jetta Wagon, or 300TD. You know the saying: good, fast, cheap-- pick any two.

My impressions at this point:

Rabbit- reliable, easy to work on, low purchase price, no turbo=slow accel, good MPG (40+).

Jetta Wagon- good MPG (40+), turbo=fast, higher purchase, reliability and ease of work unsure???

300TD- low purchase, turbo=decent accel, MPG not as good (20-30), reliability good I think?

I'm going to be hard pressed to find a Jetta Wagon or Golf TDI that I can afford, so it is probably going to come down to the Rabbit versus 300TD. The obvious competition there for me is the high MPG of the Rabbit versus the awesome styling of the Mercedes, which will probably put maintenance/repair as a major deciding factor.

So I'm trying to figure out, is keeping a W123 300TD running in good condition really more EXPEN$IVE than any other 30-year-old car, if I'm doing the wrenching myself?

Thanks for everyone's thoughts and opinions.

- Alan

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment - To Chip

 

Chip,

Really???  WOW, thank you.  We're just up the road from you off of I-45.  I just called Kevin, he says he'll need them by next weekend.  *sigh* I was hoping, (but not expecting) to be back on the road before then. :( 

Snail mail: Trish Dougherty, 3039 FM 85, Ennis, TX 75119

Maybe we'll  take a road trip to return them!

I'm fixing his favorite dinner tonight for all of the aggravation over this "easy" motor swap.  I wanted to help, but he's done most of the work. 

I may be a female, but in my family we weren't allowed to drive until we could change the oil & a tire. I got the application for my learners permit when I turned 16, not a car! After I took drivers ed and got my license that summer I was allowed to borrow my parents '70 Delta 88, (Do you KNOW what kind of motor that car had???? What were they thinking?)  but I had to write down the mileage and pay .07 per mile and replace any used gas!

Many years later I had a Pacer.  Yes, the aquarium/roller skate car.  My water pump went out.  I got home from work one afternoon to find my dad had taken my car apart, laying each piece out the way it had to go back in!  I had to hurry because it was starting to snow and we had no garage or carport!

Years later I bought a '67 Mustang for $600 that had been sitting in my landlords pasture.  I did most of the restoration work myself.  It was much like this car. Hunting for that one piece, connecting with others like minded.

I loved my brand new T-birds, but they wore out.  I'm looking forward to years of enjoyment out of this car for the payment of proper maintenance. 



From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 
Trish,

I'll be happy to loan you guys the wrenches that are used on the valve adjustment, along with the book and gauges that Mercedes Source provides for this job. I should be able to get them to you within a day or two at most.

I'll need a mailing address, but I'll be glad to send them your way.
It should be everything Kevin will need to get your valves adjusted.

Chip
Houston


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Valve Adjustment Adventures

 

1.  Do an archive search re valve adjustment (wrenches, tools, etc.) Lots of good info there.
2.  The valve adjustment wrenches can be bought from Mercedes Source.
3.  You can make your own wrenches if you are handy with a welding torch. Just buy straight wrenches and bend them appropriately. PS - you can make a bunch and sell them to this group.
4.  Some of us might "loan" you ours if you put a child up as ransom.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 6:13 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Valve Adjustment Adventures

 




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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 

I bought my wrenches from mercedes source.Had them 4 years no problems
 

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 
Trish,

I'll be happy to loan you guys the wrenches that are used on the valve adjustment, along with the book and gauges that Mercedes Source provides for this job. I should be able to get them to you within a day or two at most.

I'll need a mailing address, but I'll be glad to send them your way.
It should be everything Kevin will need to get your valves adjusted.

Chip
Houston

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Trish Dougherty <purrfectharmonyfarm@...> wrote:
>
> I watched the video on MS and have recall it being said on here that you
> MUST have the right wrench to adjust the valves. Isn't there someone on
> here that makes them too? If these are necessary then I need them ASAP.
>
> Thanks gang.
>
>
> The "other" female (vbg)
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>



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[diesel_mercedes] Re: The right wrench for the valve adjustment

 

Trish,

I'll be happy to loan you guys the wrenches that are used on the valve adjustment, along with the book and gauges that Mercedes Source provides for this job. I should be able to get them to you within a day or two at most.

I'll need a mailing address, but I'll be glad to send them your way.
It should be everything Kevin will need to get your valves adjusted.

Chip
Houston

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Trish Dougherty <purrfectharmonyfarm@...> wrote:
>
> I watched the video on MS and have recall it being said on here that you
> MUST have the right wrench to adjust the valves. Isn't there someone on
> here that makes them too? If these are necessary then I need them ASAP.
>
> Thanks gang.
>
>
> The "other" female (vbg)
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Laughing

 

Chip who? hehehe

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

(did they find Chip's body yet ?)

-Nate


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