Re: [diesel_mercedes] 240D Top Speed ?

 

I run soluble oil in my coolant, it really keeps the innards clean, and
an old over the road trucker friend, said it extended his water pump
life by pretty much double

On 10/4/2016 9:03 PM, 'Atwood,Warren' Warren.Atwood@altramotion.com
[diesel_mercedes] wrote:
>
>
> Nate – you can also use straight white vinegar to cleanse the system.
> Most of the crap that is sold
>
> for cooling system cleaner is weak.
>
>
>
> The best I've used is Thoro Flush: http://www.irontite.com/aws_vid.html
>
>
>
> Used it and the vinegar in my 49 Ford flathead cooling system and was
> surprised at all the junk that
>
> came out when I back flushed the system.
>
> Now, with all that crud floating around in the cooling system, the
> radiator could get full of stuff
>
> and need to be 'rodded out'. Where the two caps are taken off and a rod
> is used to clean out each
>
> tube in the radiator core.
>
>
>
> Back flushing is a big deal too, as it pushes most of the crud out of
> the radiator.
>
>
>
> Need to get agro with it. Once squeaky clean, add coolant and one
> bottle of water wetter.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 5:13 PM
> *To:* Lorraine Payette <lorrainepayette.ccasa@yahoo.ca>; David Miller
> <d.david.miller@gmail.com>; Raul L.A.P.D. Supply Juarez
> <n4243@lapd.lacity.org>; Dwayne Bryan <dwayne.bryan@lacity.org>;
> Yahoogroups <126diesel@yahoogroups.com>; Yahoogroups
> <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>; Tony Flores <pack4u2@comcast.net>;
> Tam Hall <audiolaw@aol.com>
> *Cc:* Nate Hall <rsrnate63@hotmail.com>; Kate <akatis@aol.com>; Michelle
> Wright <floundah@gmail.com>; Leslie 2 Simpson
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> *Subject:* [diesel_mercedes] 240D Top Speed ?
>
>
>
>
>
> 10.4.16
>
>
>
> So ;
>
>
>
> In trying to fully clean the cooling system I have taken to running this
> car (1982 240D automatic Sedan, 358,000 + miles, bad valve in # 1
> cylinder) with the throttle pinned and the heater turned to max hot (fan
> off) on the freeway when I can find it open .
>
>
>
> After a couple miles the temperature begins to creep up and almost
> reaches 100* C ~ at this point whatever silt or crud is in the wee
> corners of the water jacket begins to break loose and mix with the
> distilled water I'm running .
>
>
>
> After a 15 minute run yesterday the water remained clear so I *thought*
> I was all done and ready to install pre mixed coolant but after tearing
> up the Harbor freeway @ full tilt boogie this morning I popped the
> radiator cap to find foamy stuff, meaning there's still a little bit of
> cleaner or something in there ~
>
>
>
> This afternoon I drained it (block and radiator) and refilled it with
> distilled water and hit the I-1210 freeway , pinned the throttle and
> waited .
>
>
>
> Much to my surprise it easily pinned the speedometer (@ 82 per GPS) and
> continued to accelerate ~ this was on a slight down hill grade and
> eventually I guess it hit the governor in the injection pump as it flat
> wouldn't go faster than 89 MPH .
>
>
>
> That's plenty fast for a 50 HP 4 cylinder naturally aspirated Diesel
> pushing a 4,700 pound car through a slushbox tranny .
>
>
>
> I also eyballed the toe in , I'd noticed the car " hunting " a little
> bit and it was toed out .
>
>
>
> Now it drives O.K. but the steering wheel is slightly off set to the
> right so I must needs re adjust the tire rods to center it .
>
>
>
> -Nate
>
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RE: [diesel_mercedes] 240D Top Speed ?

 

Nate – you can also use straight white vinegar to cleanse the system.   Most of the crap that is sold

for cooling system cleaner is weak.

 

The best I've used is Thoro Flush:   http://www.irontite.com/aws_vid.html

 

Used it and the vinegar in my 49 Ford flathead cooling system and was surprised at all the junk that

came out when I back flushed the system. 

Now, with all that crud floating around in the cooling system, the radiator could get full of stuff

and need to be 'rodded out'.  Where the two caps are taken off and a rod is used to clean out each

tube in the radiator core.  

 

Back flushing is a big deal too, as it pushes most of the crud out of the radiator. 

 

Need to get agro with it.    Once squeaky clean, add coolant and one bottle of water wetter.

 

 

 

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 5:13 PM
To: Lorraine Payette <lorrainepayette.ccasa@yahoo.ca>; David Miller <d.david.miller@gmail.com>; Raul L.A.P.D. Supply Juarez <n4243@lapd.lacity.org>; Dwayne Bryan <dwayne.bryan@lacity.org>; Yahoogroups <126diesel@yahoogroups.com>; Yahoogroups <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>; Tony Flores <pack4u2@comcast.net>; Tam Hall <audiolaw@aol.com>
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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 240D Top Speed ?

 

 

10.4.16

 

So ;

 

In trying to fully clean the cooling system I have taken to running this car (1982 240D automatic Sedan, 358,000 + miles, bad valve in # 1 cylinder) with the throttle pinned and the heater turned to max hot (fan off) on the freeway when I can find it open .

 

After a couple miles the temperature begins to creep up and almost reaches 100* C ~ at this point whatever silt or crud is in the wee corners of the water jacket begins to break loose and mix with the distilled water I'm running .

 

After a 15 minute run yesterday the water remained clear so I *thought* I was all done and ready to install pre mixed coolant but after tearing up the Harbor freeway @ full tilt boogie this morning I popped the radiator cap to find foamy stuff, meaning there's still a little bit of cleaner or something in there ~

 

This afternoon I drained it (block and radiator) and refilled it with distilled water and hit the I-1210 freeway , pinned the throttle and waited .

 

Much to my surprise it easily pinned the speedometer (@ 82 per GPS) and continued to accelerate ~ this was on a slight down hill grade and eventually I guess it hit the governor in the injection pump as it flat wouldn't go faster than 89 MPH .

 

That's plenty fast for a 50 HP 4 cylinder naturally aspirated Diesel pushing a 4,700 pound car through a slushbox tranny .

 

I also eyballed the toe in , I'd noticed the car " hunting " a little bit and it was toed out .

 

Now it drives O.K. but the steering wheel is slightly off set to the right so I must needs re adjust the tire rods to center it .

 

-Nate


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[diesel_mercedes] 240D Top Speed ?

 

10.4.16

So ;

In trying to fully clean the cooling system I have taken to running this car (1982 240D automatic Sedan, 358,000 + miles, bad valve in # 1 cylinder) with the throttle pinned and the heater turned to max hot (fan off) on the freeway when I can find it open .

After a couple miles the temperature begins to creep up and almost reaches 100* C ~ at this point whatever silt or crud is in the wee corners of the water jacket begins to break loose and mix with the distilled water I'm running .

After a 15 minute run yesterday the water remained clear so I *thought* I was all done and ready to install pre mixed coolant but after tearing up the Harbor freeway @ full tilt boogie this morning I popped the radiator cap to find foamy stuff, meaning there's still a little bit of cleaner or something in there ~

This afternoon I drained it (block and radiator) and refilled it with distilled water and hit the I-1210 freeway , pinned the throttle and waited .

Much to my surprise it easily pinned the speedometer (@ 82 per GPS) and continued to accelerate ~ this was on a slight down hill grade and eventually I guess it hit the governor in the injection pump as it flat wouldn't go faster than 89 MPH .

That's plenty fast for a 50 HP 4 cylinder naturally aspirated Diesel pushing a 4,700 pound car through a slushbox tranny .

I also eyballed the toe in , I'd noticed the car " hunting " a little bit and it was toed out .

Now it drives O.K. but the steering wheel is slightly off set to the right so I must needs re adjust the tire rods to center it .

-Nate

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] OOps ~

 

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1974/mercedes/240d/brake/brake_caliper.html

 

these are the same as I got at NAPA. 

 

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 2:50 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] OOps ~

 

 

Hey, when rebuilding brake calipers , is it pretty much the same  as shoe pistons? You just have to clean out the cylinder , maybe hone it and install the rubber parts? I notice the prices for calipers might lead me to re-do my own. Whats the talk about this? max

 

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Nate vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I was harvesting parts from a 1980 Mercedes 240D last week and noticed pic. # 1 ~

 

" This cannot be a good thing " , I reached over and tugged on the broken alloy rocker box and it came off in my hand revealing pic. # 2 ~ notice there's no wear on the can chain sprocket whatsoever .

 

I'm guessing someone replaced the cam chain and didn't peen to master link properly, sending this poor old car to the junk  yard .

 

I went there to salvage the European spec. rear bumper off the '75 (!) 230C grey market car in Pic. # 3 .

 

It was *very* rusty and had clearly given it's all .

 

The bumper has one rust hole in it and will be used to assemble a better European bumper to the rear of my '84 300CD *:x lovestruck.

 

Because " a thing of beauty is a joy to behold " .

 

-Nate

 

 

 


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RE: [diesel_mercedes] OOps ~

 

Max – there are some good videos on youtube regarding caliper rebuilds.   However,

I did find good rebuilds at NAPA and went that route.  Mine were so far gone.  Also

got the caliper hoses from NAPA.  Got a new MC and a new vac brake booster.  It was worth

the extra $$.  My brake system was trashed.  Crud in the MC from the booster, line full

of stuff.  All nice and clean now.  That was about 2 years ago, and it stops in a straight line,

no issues.   Used a vac bleeder.  Embarrassed to say how far gone it was – my fault.

 

What ever you do, be squeaky clean with the parts. 

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 2:50 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] OOps ~

 

 

Hey, when rebuilding brake calipers , is it pretty much the same  as shoe pistons? You just have to clean out the cylinder , maybe hone it and install the rubber parts? I notice the prices for calipers might lead me to re-do my own. Whats the talk about this? max

 

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Nate vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I was harvesting parts from a 1980 Mercedes 240D last week and noticed pic. # 1 ~

 

" This cannot be a good thing " , I reached over and tugged on the broken alloy rocker box and it came off in my hand revealing pic. # 2 ~ notice there's no wear on the can chain sprocket whatsoever .

 

I'm guessing someone replaced the cam chain and didn't peen to master link properly, sending this poor old car to the junk  yard .

 

I went there to salvage the European spec. rear bumper off the '75 (!) 230C grey market car in Pic. # 3 .

 

It was *very* rusty and had clearly given it's all .

 

The bumper has one rust hole in it and will be used to assemble a better European bumper to the rear of my '84 300CD *:x lovestruck.

 

Because " a thing of beauty is a joy to behold " .

 

-Nate

 

 

 


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] OOps ~

 

Hey, when rebuilding brake calipers , is it pretty much the same  as shoe pistons? You just have to clean out the cylinder , maybe hone it and install the rubber parts? I notice the prices for calipers might lead me to re-do my own. Whats the talk about this? max

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Nate vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I was harvesting parts from a 1980 Mercedes 240D last week and noticed pic. # 1 ~

" This cannot be a good thing " , I reached over and tugged on the broken alloy rocker box and it came off in my hand revealing pic. # 2 ~ notice there's no wear on the can chain sprocket whatsoever .

I'm guessing someone replaced the cam chain and didn't peen to master link properly, sending this poor old car to the junk  yard .

I went there to salvage the European spec. rear bumper off the '75 (!) 230C grey market car in Pic. # 3 .

It was *very* rusty and had clearly given it's all .

The bumper has one rust hole in it and will be used to assemble a better European bumper to the rear of my '84 300CD *:x lovestruck .

Because " a thing of beauty is a joy to behold " .

-Nate




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