Re: [diesel_mercedes] Oil Cooler Hoses -HELP- !

 

look "underneath" the oil pan behind the big sump. there is a bracket that has a slip connection to the cross member under the engine. It will keep the engine from lifting up. I just faced this myself pulling a motor out of a 240d to put in my jeep to replace the tired 5 banger I first put in it. Good luck
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1984 300TD .

I was able to sneak out the lower hose but the top one won't come out for clearance issues so I unbolted the lower motor mount 100MM Allen head bolts , undid the four 17MM ATF nuts on the left side support and removed the tiny engine shock absorbers , tried to jack the engine up so I could remove the left side cast alloy support but there's -no- gap between the support and the motor mount (?!?) .

WTH ? .

I can't see what's holding the engine from raising up , I'm sure some one here will know what I've forgotten to undo ......

TIA ,

-Nate




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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Oil Cooler Hoses -HELP- !

 

Nate,

I was trying to forget the whole experience.

Some say you'll be "swearing in German" by the end of this job, and I think this is true.

If I do remember correctly, from 2008 when I did this job, the exhaust binds and you have to separate the pipe from the turbo, to raise the engine. Mine's the CA Trap OX model, so maybe it's different with yours.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA
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1984 300TD .


I was able to sneak out the lower hose but the top one won't come out for clearance issues so I unbolted the lower motor mount 100MM Allen head bolts , undid the four 17MM ATF nuts on the left side support and removed the tiny engine shock absorbers , tried to jack the engine up so I could remove the left side cast alloy support but there's -no- gap between the support and the motor mount (?!?) .


WTH ? .


I can't see what's holding the engine from raising up , I'm sure some one here will know what I've forgotten to undo ......


TIA ,


-Nate


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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Oil Cooler Hoses -HELP- !

 

https://www.google.com/#q=1984+300TD+oil+cooler+hoses+youtube

Bill in Oregon

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Oil Cooler Hoses -HELP- !

 

1984 300TD .

I was able to sneak out the lower hose but the top one won't come out for clearance issues so I unbolted the lower motor mount 100MM Allen head bolts , undid the four 17MM ATF nuts on the left side support and removed the tiny engine shock absorbers , tried to jack the engine up so I could remove the left side cast alloy support but there's -no- gap between the support and the motor mount (?!?) .

WTHeck ? .I can't see what's holding the engine from raising up , I'm sure some one here will know what I've forgotten to undo ......

TIA ,   -Nate

 

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1984 300TD .


I was able to sneak out the lower hose but the top one won't come out for clearance issues so I unbolted the lower motor mount 100MM Allen head bolts , undid the four 17MM ATF nuts on the left side support and removed the tiny engine shock absorbers , tried to jack the engine up so I could remove the left side cast alloy support but there's -no- gap between the support and the motor mount (?!?) .


WTH ? .


I can't see what's holding the engine from raising up , I'm sure some one here will know what I've forgotten to undo ......


TIA ,


-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] F.S. 1977 300D Sedan Los Angeles

 



Sounds good Mark ;

I didn't see the usual rusty coolant stains near the servo , it was the original Bakelite typ , I should have popped the radiator cap but didn't....

As you said , once sorted (or never allowed to fall into disrepair) it was an _amazing_ system that blew *much* colder AC than any Kilma II I've ever encountered .

This should make someone a nice daily driver or hobby car , I hope to never buy another black vehicle in my life .

-Nate
        Mark  wrote :

The first Mercedes diesel I ever owned was a '77 300D.  Paid $350 at a local donation auction.  They couldn't get it started, and nobody else was interested in it (especially as it was Stay-Around-Brown), so I had no competition for it.  But it was a clean, rust-free Las Vegas car.  I'd never laid hands on any diesel before, yet I managed to get it started in the parking lot, and drove it off.

It had the old loop, series-connected glow plugs, and one was out, so all were out.  I upgraded that to parallel-wired, pencil-tipped plugs using the Diesel Giant kit, and after that it would start in any condition, no matter what.  I had to rebuild the transmission when it lost reverse because the seals had dried out and cracked into pieces.  I never touched the Klima system.  Someone had replaced the servo with the aluminum housing version, and it still had the original charge of R-12.  It worked flawlessly.

At the altitudes around here, it had about 65 horsepower, and performed like a 240D with manual transmission.  Once rolling, it had no trouble running up 12,000 foot passes, but you didn't want to hog the fast lane.  It kept up, but would pass only the slowest of the flatlander slowpokes.

All-in-all, a great intro into the world of Mercedes diesels.  If the servo doesn't obviously show leakage, indicating a crack, then it probably still works.  After 40-years, I believe, that if the servo was going to go out, it has by now.  The only other big problem, as mentioned earlier, is cracked transmission servo seals, leading to slow engagement into and, ultimately, no reverse.

Mark in Centennial, CO
'79 300SD (Mercedes best selling model for 1979)

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] E.S. 1977 300D Sedan Los Angeles

 

There's a Junk Yard in Gardena , East side of Normandie just South of the 91 freeway , they have a very nice black NA sedan for sale , no price but the Russians who run this yard are *very* flexible on pricing , I have bought cars here before .

Klima I that's still connected so be ready to work on that before you have any sort of HVAC , there are multiple cheapo 1/2 assed bodges or the $600 + digital servo .

The seats are a bit tired but overall I'd say this looks like a nice little car to resurrect . the battery was dead so I couldn't start it , some times this place sells them on the old pink slip , not a salvage title .

2014 tags I *think* ~ I noticed it as I was passing by taking SWMBO to the grocery store and only stopped a moment to look inside , under the hood , in the trunk etc. ~ it's _not_ beat all the hell like so many are .

-Nate


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] E.S. 1977 300D Sedan Los Angeles

 

The first Mercedes diesel I ever owned was a '77 300D.  Paid $350 at a local donation auction.  They couldn't get it started, and nobody else was interested in it (especially as it was Stay-Around-Brown), so I had no competition for it.  But it was a clean, rust-free Las Vegas car.  I'd never laid hands on any diesel before, yet I managed to get it started in the parking lot, and drove it off.

It had the old loop, series-connected glow plugs, and one was out, so all were out.  I upgraded that to parallel-wired, pencil-tipped plugs using the Diesel Giant kit, and after that it would start in any condition, no matter what.  I had to rebuild the transmission when it lost reverse because the seals had dried out and cracked into pieces.  I never touched the Klima system.  Someone had replaced the servo with the aluminum housing version, and it still had the original charge of R-12.  It worked flawlessly.

At the altitudes around here, it had about 65 horsepower, and performed like a 240D with manual transmission.  Once rolling, it had no trouble running up 12,000 foot passes, but you didn't want to hog the fast lane.  It kept up, but would pass only the slowest of the flatlander slowpokes.

All-in-all, a great intro into the world of Mercedes diesels.  If the servo doesn't obviously show leakage, indicating a crack, then it probably still works.  After 40-years, I believe, that if the servo was going to go out, it has by now.  The only other big problem, as mentioned earlier, is cracked transmission servo seals, leading to slow engagement into and, ultimately, no reverse.

Mark in Centennial, CO
'79 300SD (Mercedes best selling model for 1979)

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] E.S. 1977 300D Sedan Los Angeles

 

There's a Junk Yard in Gardena , East side of Normandie just South of the 91 freeway , they have a very nice black NA sedan for sale , no price but the Russians who run this yard are *very* flexible on pricing , I have bought cars here before .

Klima I that's still connected so be ready to work on that before you have any sort of HVAC , there are multiple cheapo 1/2 assed bodges or the $600 + digital servo .

The seats are a bit tired but overall I'd say this looks like a nice little car to resurrect . the battery was dead so I couldn't start it , some times this place sells them on the old pink slip , not a salvage title .

2014 tags I *think* ~ I noticed it as I was passing by taking SWMBO to the grocery store and only stopped a moment to look inside , under the hood , in the trunk etc. ~ it's _not_ beat all the hell like so many are .

-Nate


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