Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fast glow plug conversion

 

On 8/31/2017 6:13 PM, Max temple jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
 
Also there is a huge resistor(sort of thing) under the hood, mine looked so bad, old, rusty, I could not believe it still worked. Max

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:01 AM, 'Atwood,Warren' Warren.Atwood@altramotion.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Mark – on a 220D without the relay, it has the salt shaker on the dash,

the output voltage is 12V, measured at the first GP,

I've also read that it should be 9V – what is your take?  I want

to do the fast glow plug set up, and obviously have the correct voltage .

I believe that's a fuse. A fresh one might prevent it from being a resistor, a good thing if you intend to get full voltage to your glow plugs. I am not educated on the early 220D setup. I forget what my '74 had, possibly as you describe on your 220D. I do know that thing would start perfectly, but the PO was a perfectionist and I am sure if it needed anything, he had it done right.
Like I have said before, my car is a good looker, but it did not get the best service.
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Sylvia Died

 

Brian,

You sure had a run of bad luck.

True, best to turn Lemons to Lemonade, or maybe a lemon drop martini.

Now back to happy driving.

Rob

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On 8/31/17 4:18 PM, Max temple jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
If you want to switch to 240's, I have two good running ones. Life change here coming. Max (looks the same as yours)

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 7:38 AM, bstromsoe@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


So where have I been in August?  Well, I bought Sylvia from one of our group members. Sylvia is a 1984 w126 300SD. I did this because Martha had been rear ended in Puyallup and Mary was getting an engine replaced in the LA area. I flew into Boston where Barton picked me up and I spent the night at his house. In the morning I took Sylvia out of his driveway and began the journey to Columbus, Ohio where one of my daughters lives. Enjoyed a very pleasant drive along state route 2A admiring the beauty of Massachusetts and New York. Heard a strange noise in Pennsylvania but everything seemed fine at 70 mph, except the engine would not shut off when I stopped for fuel. That should have been a red flag warning for me. Back in the car and entering Ohio, it was dark so I pulled into a rest stop to phone my daughter. That is when the engine shut down and I coasted into a parking spot. Popped the hood and there was no oil - the vacuum pump had exploded and tore out a 2" part of the casing (probably back in Pennsylvania), and oil had been exiting the hole for several hundred miles. Got towed to Alliance, Ohio where I got oil at Walmart to see if the engine miraculously survived and spent the night in a motel. Next morning got towed to an MB dealership in Columbus to see what the damage was. They found a vacuum pump in Chicago and started the engine. Bad miss - same as when I pulled it over; ok when running at 3000 rpm, but dead in the water at lower rpm's. I already had $3500 in the well by that time and decided to pull the plug rather than take the engine apart to see if it was a rebuild or replace issue. This week Sylvia will be towed to my daughters house where she will either be donated to NPR, or parted out. I will be flying down to LA in about 3 weeks to pick up Mary and drive her up to Washington - you may remember that Mary's engine blew coming into Bakersfield a few months ago. Moral of the story - if you get some lemons along lifes highway, make some lemonade. Safe travels to all.






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If you want to switch to 240's, I have two good running ones. Life change here coming. Max (looks the same as yours)

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 7:38 AM, bstromsoe@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


So where have I been in August?  Well, I bought Sylvia from one of our group members. Sylvia is a 1984 w126 300SD. I did this because Martha had been rear ended in Puyallup and Mary was getting an engine replaced in the LA area. I flew into Boston where Barton picked me up and I spent the night at his house. In the morning I took Sylvia out of his driveway and began the journey to Columbus, Ohio where one of my daughters lives. Enjoyed a very pleasant drive along state route 2A admiring the beauty of Massachusetts and New York. Heard a strange noise in Pennsylvania but everything seemed fine at 70 mph, except the engine would not shut off when I stopped for fuel. That should have been a red flag warning for me. Back in the car and entering Ohio, it was dark so I pulled into a rest stop to phone my daughter. That is when the engine shut down and I coasted into a parking spot. Popped the hood and there was no oil - the vacuum pump had exploded and tore out a 2" part of the casing (probably back in Pennsylvania), and oil had been exiting the hole for several hundred miles. Got towed to Alliance, Ohio where I got oil at Walmart to see if the engine miraculously survived and spent the night in a motel. Next morning got towed to an MB dealership in Columbus to see what the damage was. They found a vacuum pump in Chicago and started the engine. Bad miss - same as when I pulled it over; ok when running at 3000 rpm, but dead in the water at lower rpm's. I already had $3500 in the well by that time and decided to pull the plug rather than take the engine apart to see if it was a rebuild or replace issue. This week Sylvia will be towed to my daughters house where she will either be donated to NPR, or parted out. I will be flying down to LA in about 3 weeks to pick up Mary and drive her up to Washington - you may remember that Mary's engine blew coming into Bakersfield a few months ago. Moral of the story - if you get some lemons along lifes highway, make some lemonade. Safe travels to all.





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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fast glow plug conversion

 

Also there is a huge resistor(sort of thing) under the hood, mine looked so bad, old, rusty, I could not believe it still worked. Max

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:01 AM, 'Atwood,Warren' Warren.Atwood@altramotion.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Mark – on a 220D without the relay, it has the salt shaker on the dash,

the output voltage is 12V, measured at the first GP,

I've also read that it should be 9V – what is your take?  I want

to do the fast glow plug set up, and obviously have the correct voltage .

 

thanks,

warren -

 

 

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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fast glow plug conversion

 

 

Your car takes the fat ones.  When I put the Diesel Giant parallel-wired upgrade kit in my '77 300D, it went from one difficult starting sonuva..... to the easiest starting diesel I've ever owned.  Would out-start some of the gassers I have at 0 degrees F.  I attributed this to the fact it used the big plugs, which may have provided a larger heating surface in the pre-chamber...?  I dunno....

 

Mark in Centennial, CO

On August 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM "Mark Bardenwerper citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes]" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hey,
Just reporting in on the 77 240D. She's been running fairly well. I only
had one or two incidences of no power in the last week. I think it will
likely go away entirely the more it runs.
My next job is to go to a fast glow plug setup. I am a little confused.
Should my car fit the 12mm or the fatter 18mm plugs?
Thanks again for your help,

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Technology...responsibly, thoughtfully


 

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Fast glow plug conversion

 

Mark – on a 220D without the relay, it has the salt shaker on the dash,

the output voltage is 12V, measured at the first GP,

I've also read that it should be 9V – what is your take?  I want

to do the fast glow plug set up, and obviously have the correct voltage .

 

thanks,

warren -

 

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:03 AM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fast glow plug conversion

 

 

Your car takes the fat ones.  When I put the Diesel Giant parallel-wired upgrade kit in my '77 300D, it went from one difficult starting sonuva..... to the easiest starting diesel I've ever owned.  Would out-start some of the gassers I have at 0 degrees F.  I attributed this to the fact it used the big plugs, which may have provided a larger heating surface in the pre-chamber...?  I dunno....

 

Mark in Centennial, CO

On August 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM "Mark Bardenwerper citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes]" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hey,
Just reporting in on the 77 240D. She's been running fairly well. I only
had one or two incidences of no power in the last week. I think it will
likely go away entirely the more it runs.
My next job is to go to a fast glow plug setup. I am a little confused.
Should my car fit the 12mm or the fatter 18mm plugs?
Thanks again for your help,

--
Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
Technology...responsibly, thoughtfully


 

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Your car takes the fat ones.  When I put the Diesel Giant parallel-wired upgrade kit in my '77 300D, it went from one difficult starting sonuva..... to the easiest starting diesel I've ever owned.  Would out-start some of the gassers I have at 0 degrees F.  I attributed this to the fact it used the big plugs, which may have provided a larger heating surface in the pre-chamber...?  I dunno....


Mark in Centennial, CO

On August 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM "Mark Bardenwerper citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes]" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hey,
Just reporting in on the 77 240D. She's been running fairly well. I only
had one or two incidences of no power in the last week. I think it will
likely go away entirely the more it runs.
My next job is to go to a fast glow plug setup. I am a little confused.
Should my car fit the 12mm or the fatter 18mm plugs?
Thanks again for your help,

--
Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
Technology...responsibly, thoughtfully


 

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[diesel_mercedes] Fast glow plug conversion

 

Hey,
Just reporting in on the 77 240D. She's been running fairly well. I only
had one or two incidences of no power in the last week. I think it will
likely go away entirely the more it runs.
My next job is to go to a fast glow plug setup. I am a little confused.
Should my car fit the 12mm or the fatter 18mm plugs?
Thanks again for your help,

--
Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
Technology...responsibly, thoughtfully

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Sylvia Died

 

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From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:29 PM
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You need to write a book.  Safe travels indeed

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Sylvia Died

 

 

So where have I been in August?  Well, I bought Sylvia from one of our group members. Sylvia is a 1984 w126 300SD. I did this because Martha had been rear ended in Puyallup and Mary was getting an engine replaced in the LA area. I flew into Boston where Barton picked me up and I spent the night at his house. In the morning I took Sylvia out of his driveway and began the journey to Columbus, Ohio where one of my daughters lives. Enjoyed a very pleasant drive along state route 2A admiring the beauty of Massachusetts and New York. Heard a strange noise in Pennsylvania but everything seemed fine at 70 mph, except the engine would not shut off when I stopped for fuel. That should have been a red flag warning for me. Back in the car and entering Ohio, it was dark so I pulled into a rest stop to phone my daughter. That is when the engine shut down and I coasted into a parking spot. Popped the hood and there was no oil - the vacuum pump had exploded and tore out a 2" part of the casing (probably back in Pennsylvania), and oil had been exiting the hole for several hundred miles. Got towed to Alliance, Ohio where I got oil at Walmart to see if the engine miraculously survived and spent the night in a motel. Next morning got towed to an MB dealership in Columbus to see what the damage was. They found a vacuum pump in Chicago and started the engine. Bad miss - same as when I pulled it over; ok when running at 3000 rpm, but dead in the water at lower rpm's. I already had $3500 in the well by that time and decided to pull the plug rather than take the engine apart to see if it was a rebuild or replace issue. This week Sylvia will be towed to my daughters house where she will either be donated to NPR, or parted out. I will be flying down to LA in about 3 weeks to pick up Mary and drive her up to Washington - you may remember that Mary's engine blew coming into Bakersfield a few months ago. Moral of the story - if you get some lemons along lifes highway, make some lemonade. Safe travels to all.

 

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You need to write a book.  Safe travels indeed

 

 

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So where have I been in August?  Well, I bought Sylvia from one of our group members. Sylvia is a 1984 w126 300SD. I did this because Martha had been rear ended in Puyallup and Mary was getting an engine replaced in the LA area. I flew into Boston where Barton picked me up and I spent the night at his house. In the morning I took Sylvia out of his driveway and began the journey to Columbus, Ohio where one of my daughters lives. Enjoyed a very pleasant drive along state route 2A admiring the beauty of Massachusetts and New York. Heard a strange noise in Pennsylvania but everything seemed fine at 70 mph, except the engine would not shut off when I stopped for fuel. That should have been a red flag warning for me. Back in the car and entering Ohio, it was dark so I pulled into a rest stop to phone my daughter. That is when the engine shut down and I coasted into a parking spot. Popped the hood and there was no oil - the vacuum pump had exploded and tore out a 2" part of the casing (probably back in Pennsylvania), and oil had been exiting the hole for several hundred miles. Got towed to Alliance, Ohio where I got oil at Walmart to see if the engine miraculously survived and spent the night in a motel. Next morning got towed to an MB dealership in Columbus to see what the damage was. They found a vacuum pump in Chicago and started the engine. Bad miss - same as when I pulled it over; ok when running at 3000 rpm, but dead in the water at lower rpm's. I already had $3500 in the well by that time and decided to pull the plug rather than take the engine apart to see if it was a rebuild or replace issue. This week Sylvia will be towed to my daughters house where she will either be donated to NPR, or parted out. I will be flying down to LA in about 3 weeks to pick up Mary and drive her up to Washington - you may remember that Mary's engine blew coming into Bakersfield a few months ago. Moral of the story - if you get some lemons along lifes highway, make some lemonade. Safe travels to all.

 

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So where have I been in August?  Well, I bought Sylvia from one of our group members. Sylvia is a 1984 w126 300SD. I did this because Martha had been rear ended in Puyallup and Mary was getting an engine replaced in the LA area. I flew into Boston where Barton picked me up and I spent the night at his house. In the morning I took Sylvia out of his driveway and began the journey to Columbus, Ohio where one of my daughters lives. Enjoyed a very pleasant drive along state route 2A admiring the beauty of Massachusetts and New York. Heard a strange noise in Pennsylvania but everything seemed fine at 70 mph, except the engine would not shut off when I stopped for fuel. That should have been a red flag warning for me. Back in the car and entering Ohio, it was dark so I pulled into a rest stop to phone my daughter. That is when the engine shut down and I coasted into a parking spot. Popped the hood and there was no oil - the vacuum pump had exploded and tore out a 2" part of the casing (probably back in Pennsylvania), and oil had been exiting the hole for several hundred miles. Got towed to Alliance, Ohio where I got oil at Walmart to see if the engine miraculously survived and spent the night in a motel. Next morning got towed to an MB dealership in Columbus to see what the damage was. They found a vacuum pump in Chicago and started the engine. Bad miss - same as when I pulled it over; ok when running at 3000 rpm, but dead in the water at lower rpm's. I already had $3500 in the well by that time and decided to pull the plug rather than take the engine apart to see if it was a rebuild or replace issue. This week Sylvia will be towed to my daughters house where she will either be donated to NPR, or parted out. I will be flying down to LA in about 3 weeks to pick up Mary and drive her up to Washington - you may remember that Mary's engine blew coming into Bakersfield a few months ago. Moral of the story - if you get some lemons along lifes highway, make some lemonade. Safe travels to all.


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