I want garbage looked at for fuel,paper,dead leaves,and wood to make alcohol.Green things press for oil,then left over for alcohol.Left over to enrich farm land.
--- On Tue, 7/17/12, n61cm <jim@tazwade.com> wrote:
From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternate Diesel Fuels
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:50 AM
On a related note, why are we always looking for the one single thing to replace oil? It's probably better to replace it with a bunch of things, not just one.
Jim
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@...> wrote:
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> Tom,
>
> Thanks for the opening for a plug.
>
> There are a few thousand of us who are trying to develop ways to grow algae
> and extract oil.
>
> We are now making small progress toward an open source solution, but have
> not cost the taxpayers millions.
>
> Some of the algae are called cyanobacteria. I am not a microbiologist so I
> don't know whether they are bacteria or not.
>
> Everyone is invited to join us here:
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/join>
>
>
> Bobby
>
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternate Diesel Fuels
Garbage IS used in some places, mostly burned to power steam generating plants. It's hard to think of it as a specific fuel feedstock, since "garbage" is a term that can be used to describe so many mixtures of various things (without even considering the "garbage" we see in political ads).
One of the interesting advantages of the cyanobacteria efforts is that they include efforts to create genetically modified bacteria that will generate oils from a variety of feed stocks.
Dead leaves and wood are substantively different from paper, since lots of chemicals are used when making paper, and there are 'contamination' issues about what things in paper might poison the bacteria.
Alcohol holds less energy per unit volume that diesel, kerosene, gasoline, etc. So focusing on making it is better suited to other uses of alcohol. I don't recall many stories about moonshiners running their cars and trucks on the alcohol they brewed.
In a message dated 7/17/2012 8:53:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tccservice111@yahoo.com writes:
A few years ago I volunteered to be a judge in the local high school's science fair. One of the kids had harvested two types of algae from local ponds (which he called "green" and "brown" algae), extracted the oil from them, and burned it to determine which algae had more energy. Every now and then a kid comes along who renews my faith in the future.
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