[diesel_mercedes] Cheap '83 240D in So. Cal.

 


Orange County , Flea Bay item # 231009139650

Looks good *but* seriously rusty and a bad tranny .

But for the rust I'da bought it and fixed it for resale as the poor running is almost certainly caused by crappo filthy veggie oil .

A used tranny installed is under $1,000 , current tags and decent interior (needs serious cleaning) means it would have been an easy sale once sorted but for the rust .

I think it's junk but is loaded with good bits .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : SLS Control Valve

 


Should be the same on the occasional gasser that pops up , non ? .

-Nate
Brian wrote :
>
> I have NOT seen a TD in So. Cal. PAP's in ages. Doesn't mean I won't, but they are scarce.
>
>
>  
> brian

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: W-123 300T SLS control valve

 


I've not seen and T's for a while , that dang valve is way up underneath where the black widow spiders live too .

Keep posting , maybe Brian , Tom or I will find one .

I read an OnLine DIY Tutorial on overhauling it ,it's very simple and the one I read , was done on an incredibly rusty & corroded one , care and patience returned it to *perfect* service ~ the car remained level for a week after shutoff .

-Nate
Rick wrote :
>
> Folks
>
> i'm still looking for a good used sls control valve for my 300td
>
> perhaps one of you has a good used one or maybe some of you who go to
> california pick n pulls could just saw one out of a car for me
>
> i think it makes more sense to cut one out and then take all the
> fittings off on the bench after lots of penetrant soaking etc to avoid
> screwing up the unit
>
> please contact me directly if you think you might be able to help me
>
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Usefull Tools

 


Indeed ~

My Son bought a Chinese Sawzall @ Harbor Freight and finally convinced me to use it on the hardened steel trunnions in my Metropolitan Nash , it cut them out in 45 seconds , using the pneumatic cutoff tool previously had taken three hours and nearly killed my crappy ancient air compressor .

@ $19.95 it's a bargain no matter how you slice it .

Be sure to only buy the American made Milwaukee branded blades ! .

-Nate
Barton wrote :
>
> Sawzall's rock - perhaps one of the most useful tools ever made….after 20 years of being his son-in-law, my father in-law thought me worthy enough to have one of my own and gave me a shiny new one a few Christmases ago…(he'd never give up his….).
>
> I have wreaked great havoc with it more than once ever since - still got all my fingers to boot……who knew I might need one to service my turbo when that day comes?
>
> :^)
>
>
>
>
> Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
>
> Barton C. Fiske
> barton.fiske@...
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Battery Failed/ lost key

 


Sounds about right but still no joy .

If the dogs got them , I'da expected to find the plastic bits of chewed up key tag by now and the metal part nearby .

At this moment all my eggs are in The Classic Center's basket , Tom Hansen hasn't failed me yet .

Besides , yesterday it was only 102° F and me in the middle of an asphalt parking lot with plenty of sun glare so the other Tom (my brother) supervised from the shade in front of the industrial strength swamp cooler as I spent hours sweating like a dog , repairing my Metropolitan FHC , I now once again have an inside rear view mirror and a working (AM only , tube typ) radio to keep me happy as I sweat my way around , I prolly sweated away 5 # , can't do that in the Mercedes with it's ICE COLD R-12 AC now , can I ? =8-^ .

-Nate
Chuck Wrote :

>
> 1. pants pocket in dirty wash.
> 2. floor of metro or under it, because you moved it last
> 3. floor of mercedes, or in ignition, or under seat or under car.
> 4. the dog ate them
>
> we, or at least I, have been there, done that. good luck
> chuck
>
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > After a long day , just as the sun began to set I tried to start my 300CD to move it off the street , I got a groan from the starter then every light on the dashboard went dark , I released the key and the voltage gauge came back on reading 7.013 VDC so I knew the battery was kaputi .
> >
> > Popped the trunk and grabbed the original tool kit , popped the hood and using the 10 & 13 MM open ended wrenches i had the battery out in a trice , schlepped it over to my Metropolitan Nash FHC (boy howdy , Diesel batteries are _heavy_) and headed off to Wallymart who I know stocks the correct battery for the right price.....
> >
> > The _only_ battery they didn't have in stock was their # H-8.....
> >
> > Damn , I'd gone two towns away and no battery .
> >
> > On my way home I remember there's an AutoZone store on Lake Av. , popped in and Lo ! they had _three_ different grade H-8 batteries in stock , the H-8-DLG was even rated @ 900 CCA , the stock battery is rated 750 CCA so I grabbed this one , it has a no hassle three year free replacement guarantee , all for (gasp,OUCH) $144.99 (there goes my food budget) , this plus a set of those nifty anti-corrosion felt washers and tax set me back $ 161.56 out the door , shlepped back home and installed the battery , it roared to life (whew) , I parked it inside the yard , put my Metropolitan FHC behind it , took a bath and passed out .
> >
> > This morning , I can't find the dang keys but at least I didn't leave it street parked where the local hoods would have trashed it .
> >
> > Now to find and duplicate my spare key .
> >
> > -Nate
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300TD sls control valve

 

I have NOT seen a TD in So. Cal. PAP's in ages. Doesn't mean I won't, but they are scarce.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Rick Hawkins Java <macjava@aol.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300TD sls control valve

 
Folks

i'm still looking for a good used  sls control valve for my 300td

perhaps one of you has a good used one or maybe some of you who go to california pick n pulls could just saw one out of a car for me

i think it makes more sense to cut one out and then take all the fittings off on the bench after lots of penetrant soaking etc to avoid screwing up the unit

please contact me directly if you think you might be able to help me




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[diesel_mercedes] 1982 300TD sls control valve

 

Folks


i'm still looking for a good used  sls control valve for my 300td

perhaps one of you has a good used one or maybe some of you who go to california pick n pulls could just saw one out of a car for me

i think it makes more sense to cut one out and then take all the fittings off on the bench after lots of penetrant soaking etc to avoid screwing up the unit

please contact me directly if you think you might be able to help me


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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Turbo Overhaul

Sawzall's rock - perhaps one of the most useful tools ever made….after 20 years of being his son-in-law, my father in-law thought me worthy enough to have one of my own and gave me a shiny new one a few Christmases ago…(he'd never give up his….).

I have wreaked great havoc with it more than once ever since - still got all my fingers to boot……who knew I might need one to service my turbo when that day comes?

:^)




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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery Failed/ lost key

 

1. pants pocket in dirty wash.
2. floor of metro or under it, because you moved it last
3. floor of mercedes, or in ignition, or under seat or under car.
4. the dog ate them

we, or at least I, have been there, done that. good luck
chuck

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> After a long day , just as the sin began to set I tried to start my 300CD to move it off the street , I got a groan from the starter then every light on the dashboard went dark , I released the key and the voltage gauge came back on reading 7.013 VDC so I knew the battery was kaputi .
>
> Popped the trunk and grabbed the original tool kit , popped the hood and using the 10 & 13 MM open ended wrenches i had the battery out in a trice , schlepped it over to my Metropolitan Nash FHC (boy howdy , Diesel batteries are _heavy_) and headed off to Wallymart who I know stocks the correct battery for the right price.....
>
> The _only_ battery they didn't have in stock was their # H-8.....
>
> Damn , I'd gone two towns away and no battery .
>
> On my way home I remember there's an AutoZone store on Lake Av. , popped in and Lo ! they had _three_ different grade H-8 batteries in stock , the H-8-DLG was even rated @ 900 CCA , the stock battery is rated 750 CCA so I grabbed this one , it has a no hassle three year free replacement guarantee , all for (gasp,OUCH) $144.99 (there goes my food budget) , this plus a set of those nifty anti-corrosion felt washers and tax set me back $ 161.56 out the door , shlepped back home and installed the battery , it roared to life (whew) , I parked it inside the yard , put my Metropolitan FHC behind it , took a bath and passed out .
>
> This morning , I can't find the dang keys but at least I didn't leave it street parked where the local hoods would have trashed it .
>
> Now to find and duplicate my spare key .
>
> -Nate
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Turbo Overhaul

 


Thanx ;

Who's kit didja go with ? .

I wonder of the local places kits will have the better parts .

I still can't find my ding dang keys ~ no spares to be found yet either
here's hoping Tom Hansen can come through yet again .

-Nate
Rob wrote :
>
> I started w/ Bead blaster, then the hammer, then a torch, to a grinder on one, and sawzall on the other.
> Both stuck bolts loosened when partly cut through, and came completely out in the end.
> The turbo was out of the car.
>
> Rob
> '85 300D CA
> Garden Grove, CA
>
> > __________________________________________________________
> > 2b. Turbo Overhaul
> > Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@... vwnate1
> > Date: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:53 am ((PDT))
> >
> >
> > What did you do to loosen or remove the stuck bolts ? .
> >
> > TIA ,
> >
> > -Nate
> > Rob wrote :
> > >
> > > I'm going for the Mercedesource kit too. It doesn't seem hard at all
> > > now, as I have the parts car turbo apart, and ready to be rebuilt. The
> > > impellers look fine. The hardest part was getting the bolts out of the
> > > exhaust side of the turbo, as two were stuck.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > > Garden Grove, CA
> > > =
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/26/13 3:54 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > > > Re: Turbo Overhaul
> > > > Posted by: "Nate"vwnate1@ vwnate1
> > > > Date: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:03 am ((PDT))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx for the links Rob ;
> > > >
> > > > This has been rattling around in the back of my alleged brains since you posted it , as you know , I'm far too lazy & cheap so I like to fix things_once_ and as best as possible .
> > > >
> > > > Looking at Ken's Mercedesource sales video makes me think in the long run I'm prolly better off doing this my own self : the upgraded thrust plate thing really makes sense and he says if you can replace an OM617 water pump , you can do this so I think I will , in the end even with buying the new impeller shaft , it'll be cheaper than an exchange turbo charger and who knows if the turbo rebuilder actually uses this up graded part plus a brandy new impeller on their rebuilt turbos ? you'll never know no matter what they say unless you take it apart .
> > > >
> > > > Plus , I see Ken says to only take the front 1/2 of the turbo off the car , this makes it easier yet , all reasons to tackle this on a DIY Basis @ Home donch'a think ? .
> > > >
> > > > I'll have to work it into my full schedule but I hope to corral Tom (my brother) and try this this Summer .
> > > >
> > > > -Nate
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Turbo Overhaul

 

I started w/ Bead blaster, then the hammer, then a torch, to a grinder on one, and sawzall on the other.
Both stuck bolts loosened when partly cut through, and came completely out in the end.
The turbo was out of the car.

Rob
'85 300D CA
Garden Grove, CA

> __________________________________________________________
> 2b. Turbo Overhaul
> Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
> Date: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:53 am ((PDT))
>
>
> What did you do to loosen or remove the stuck bolts ? .
>
> TIA ,
>
> -Nate
> Rob wrote :
> >
> > I'm going for the Mercedesource kit too. It doesn't seem hard at all
> > now, as I have the parts car turbo apart, and ready to be rebuilt. The
> > impellers look fine. The hardest part was getting the bolts out of the
> > exhaust side of the turbo, as two were stuck.
> >
> > Rob
> > Garden Grove, CA
> > =
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/26/13 3:54 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > > Re: Turbo Overhaul
> > > Posted by: "Nate"vwnate1@... vwnate1
> > > Date: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:03 am ((PDT))
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx for the links Rob ;
> > >
> > > This has been rattling around in the back of my alleged brains since you posted it , as you know , I'm far too lazy & cheap so I like to fix things_once_ and as best as possible .
> > >
> > > Looking at Ken's Mercedesource sales video makes me think in the long run I'm prolly better off doing this my own self : the upgraded thrust plate thing really makes sense and he says if you can replace an OM617 water pump , you can do this so I think I will , in the end even with buying the new impeller shaft , it'll be cheaper than an exchange turbo charger and who knows if the turbo rebuilder actually uses this up graded part plus a brandy new impeller on their rebuilt turbos ? you'll never know no matter what they say unless you take it apart .
> > >
> > > Plus , I see Ken says to only take the front 1/2 of the turbo off the car , this makes it easier yet , all reasons to tackle this on a DIY Basis @ Home donch'a think ? .
> > >
> > > I'll have to work it into my full schedule but I hope to corral Tom (my brother) and try this this Summer .
> > >
> > > -Nate

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Battery Failed

 

Maybe they would have stolen your old battery and saved you that lifting. And yes, those suckers are very, very, very heavy.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:57 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Battery Failed

 

After a long day , just as the sin began to set I tried to start my 300CD to move it off the street , I got a groan from the starter then every light on the dashboard went dark , I released the key and the voltage gauge came back on reading 7.013 VDC so I knew the battery was kaputi .

Popped the trunk and grabbed the original tool kit , popped the hood and using the 10 & 13 MM open ended wrenches i had the battery out in a trice , schlepped it over to my Metropolitan Nash FHC (boy howdy , Diesel batteries are _heavy_) and headed off to Wallymart who I know stocks the correct battery for the right price.....

The _only_ battery they didn't have in stock was their # H-8.....

Damn , I'd gone two towns away and no battery .

On my way home I remember there's an AutoZone store on Lake Av. , popped in and Lo ! they had _three_ different grade H-8 batteries in stock , the H-8-DLG was even rated @ 900 CCA , the stock battery is rated 750 CCA so I grabbed this one , it has a no hassle three year free replacement guarantee , all for (gasp,OUCH) $144.99 (there goes my food budget) , this plus a set of those nifty anti-corrosion felt washers and tax set me back $ 161.56 out the door , shlepped back home and installed the battery , it roared to life (whew) , I parked it inside the yard , put my Metropolitan FHC behind it , took a bath and passed out .

This morning , I can't find the dang keys but at least I didn't leave it street parked where the local hoods would have trashed it .

Now to find and duplicate my spare key .

-Nate



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