Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: I _AM_ Whining !

 

once in a while I go the PAP here, usually in the fall or spring to get some part to pass inspection....it always reminds me of the true value of automotive iron...so many new autos in perfect condition ... except for an expensive bad part.  I am astounded at the longevity of our MBs and their motors/engines. 
Going to the PAP is always a time to unwind, be outdoors and check out all sorts of scrap. I have found a cordless sawzall with a metal blade to be invaluable.

--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: I _AM_ Whining !
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 1:31 AM

Lo what a bunch of whiners.
If I can ever get a day in your neck o the woods, I would love to teach the two of you how to use wrenches at the PAP of your choice & I will buy lunch.
Tony

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@... wrote:
>
> Yah, and then he makes ME pay for lunch! 
> 
> Tom 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/17/2012 2:13:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> vwnate1@... writes:
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> Just be glad you're not in Pick-A-Part every time I see a nice old car  I
> feel is worth $1,500 as I carp , whine , bellyache and b*tch until poor 
> Tom's ears bleed about the waste...
>
> -Nate
> Tony Wrote :
>
> Dear  mod - VWN (you know who I mean) accuses me of whining about PAP's
> I am not  whiiiininnng. <G>
>




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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternate Diesel Fuels

 

Tony,

I don't think I am misleading people.  You only need to read the first line:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynobacteria>

Further down, under Classification, they say the same thing.

Per your sweetie, I think the cynobacteria have little oil, so I don't think we are interested in them.  As I said, I prefer Pc.

Bobby

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Bobby,
SWMBO told me what is happening with cyano bacteria,this evening while we were sitting in the hot tub. (her micro biological creds are very strong)
Cyano bacteria, is a group of bacteria that grow out in a cyan color, there are a number of different ones which have different names, some are called cyano bacter xyz. There are quite a few of them, they have nothing to do with algae, and will not produce oil, the have nothing to do with cyanide. They are firmly entrenched in the medical world and have been for probably a hundred years now, although new strains are being found as they evolve.

Whoever told you that algae has been renamed as cyano bacteria is wrong, bacteria is not algae, nor algae bacteria.
I commend you for looking for good oil producing algae, but if you muddy the waters with wrong terms you will just confuse people.
I think that algae oil production for bio fuels is the way of the future,so lets keep our terms straight.
Cheers, Tony.



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@...> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I have never developed an interest in the reclassification of life into
> groups.
>
> I think that what used to be called blue-green algae has been renamed
> cyano-bacteria.
>
> I think that none of them produce much oil.
>
> I think that the 20 that we are interested in are true algaes.
>
> My concern is finding 1 or more species that can be "farmed" to produce oil.
>
> My favorite is CCMP647, a strain of Pleurochrysis carterae. If we prove
> that it works, maybe we can ask your SWMBO to verify the proper
> classification of it.
>
> <https://ncma.bigelow.org/node/1/strain/CCMP647>
>
> NCMA (used to be CCMP) says it is:
> *Class: *Prymnesiophyceae *Genus: *Pleurochrysis *Species: *

> carterae
>
> Bobby
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Lost but making good time. <
> aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> > **

> >
> >
> > Bobby SWMBO is a retired microbiologist, she tells me that cyano-bacteria
> > - is a bacteria not an algae, it grows out blue green on a petri dish, it
> > will not be an oil feed stock, there may be a cyano algae???.
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Garbage IS used in some places, mostly burned to power steam generating
> > > plants. It's hard to think of it as a specific fuel feedstock, since
> > > "garbage" is a term that can be used to describe so many mixtures of
> > various
> > > things (without even considering the "garbage" we see in political ads).
> > >
> > > One of the interesting advantages of the cyanobacteria efforts is that
> > > they include efforts to create genetically modified bacteria that will
> > > generate oils from a variety of feed stocks.
> > >
> > > Dead leaves and wood are substantively different from paper, since
> > > lots of chemicals are used when making paper, and there are
> > 'contamination'
> > > issues about what things in paper might poison the bacteria.
> > >
> > > Alcohol holds less energy per unit volume that diesel, kerosene,
> > > gasoline, etc. So focusing on making it is better suited to other uses
> > of
> > > alcohol. I don't recall many stories about moonshiners running their
> > cars and
> > > trucks on the alcohol they brewed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/17/2012 8:53:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > tccservice111@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I want garbage looked at for fuel,paper,dead leaves,and wood to make
> > > alcohol.Green things press for oil,then left over for alcohol.Left over
> > to
> > > enrich farm land.
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, n61cm <jim@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: n61cm <jim@>

> >
> > > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternate Diesel Fuels
> > > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:50 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A few years ago I volunteered to be a judge in the local high school's
> > > science fair. One of the kids had harvested two types of algae from
> > local
> > > ponds (which he called "green" and "brown" algae), extracted the oil
> > from them,
> > > and burned it to determine which algae had more energy. Every now and
> > then
> > > a kid comes along who renews my faith in the future.
> > >
> > > On a related note, why are we always looking for the one single thing to
> > > replace oil? It's probably better to replace it with a bunch of things,
> > not
> > > just one.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > --- In _diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (
> > http://us.mc1147.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com)
> > , Bobby Yates Emory
> > > <liberty1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the opening for a plug.
> > > >
> > > > There are a few thousand of us who are trying to develop ways to grow
> > > algae
> > > > and extract oil.
> > > >
> > > > We are now making small progress toward an open source solution, but
> > have
> > > > not cost the taxpayers millions.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the algae are called cyanobacteria. I am not a microbiologist
> > so
> > > I
> > > > don't know whether they are bacteria or not.
> > > >
> > > > Everyone is invited to join us here:
> > > >
> > > > <_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/join_
> > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/join) >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bobby
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Toward freedom,
>
> Bobby Yates Emory
>




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Toward freedom,

Bobby Yates Emory

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