Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 1980 300SD will not turn over after short/long drive

 

Thanks for that info; I have a 300SD that has that problems. I have not driven it in awhile because I acquired an 84 300D. The person I bought the 300SD from was told by an aftermarket Merc servicing business that the replacement of the shut-off solenoid would cost huge amounts of money, so he never fixed that problem of the 1st gear problem. I solved thw shut off solenoid problem with the help of this group several years ago..relatively easy fix.
The funny thing about the shut off solenoid is that it was sticking between off an on occasionally, and gave the impression starving the motor under full throttle, simulating a bad pump.
Thanks again
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On Sun, 5/1/16, 'Mark in Lakewood, CO' beeser750@q.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 1980 300SD will not turn over after short/long drive
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Date: Sunday, May 1, 2016, 2:15 PM


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First, determine
whether or not it is or is not starting in first.  At a
stop, put the shift lever into "L"; this forces
the transmission into the first gear.  Then accelerate.
 If it seems to have better pick-up, then it is not
starting out in first when in "D".
The fix is probably in the vacuum
modulator.  It's either malfunctioning, or it needs
adjusted.  It's located on the right (passenger) side
of the transmission, just above the oil pan.  It has a
vacuum line connected to it.  You can check it by
connecting a hose to it, sucking on the hose, then putting
your tongue over the hose hole.  If your tongue stays on
the hose without the hose falling off, then the modulator is
able to hold a vacuum.
To adjust it, you need to pinch the
two ends of the clip that holds the cover onto the modulator
body.  The cover is the part that the vacuum hose connects
to, and will lift off (possibly with some difficulty) when
the clip is pinched.  Under the cover is a sort of screw
driver that is held in place by slots in the modulator body.
 Lift the "screwdriver" from the slots, and it
can be turned in or out.  It would probably need to be
turned in.  Turn it a half a turn at a time, then
reassemble the cover and do a test drive, until the car
starts out in first gear.
If that does not fix the problem,
then the valve body in the transmission has some sticky
spool valves.  A fluid and filter change may (or may not)
restore it to proper operation.
Mark in Centennial, CO

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1980 300SD will not turn over after short/long drive
















 






If it was starting out in
second gear, what is the fix?























It shouldn't be any

slower than the '81.  At least, not by much. Is the

turbo spooling up?  They can get gummed up if it's
not

driven hard enough.

Also, is

your starting out in first gear?.  My '79 does, and
it

can easily keep up with any other 5-cylinder

SD.

The jumpy temp

guage is likely a spotty connection for the temperature

guage sending unit in the head.

Mark in Centennial,

CO'79 300SD



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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:01:37

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Thanks to everyone for their comments, suggestions

and advice. Finally got around to replacing the neutral

safety switch (had 40 mph winds here in southern Arizona
the

last two days) and drove it to town and back (30 miles)
and

everything seems to be working fine. Shut it off two

different times and it started right up. I will take

Nate's advice and replace the solenoid. Nate, we
just

love the car and almost everything works, at least most
of

the time. Still have to tackle the jumping temp gauge,
right

side windows (motors work but do not operate the
regulator)

and the super slow acceleration. This car is much slower

than our 81 300SD. Cleaned the banjo bolt to the ALDI
valve

but not any better. At least it gives me something to do

with all my spare time. HA HA. Thanks again and you can
be

assured that I will have more questions/problems.
  

























































































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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1980 300sd will not turn over after short/long drive

 

sandtaz, there are some plastic bushings in the shifter mechanism that are likely worn out and there is not enough "throw" to put it in park and close the switch. Next time it happens try moving the selector to "N" (neutral) and see if it starts. Five bucks in parts and an hour or so to change the bushings and your problems are over for another 100K miles!



On 04/27/2016 11:07 PM, sandtaz@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
 

We recently acquired a 1980 300sd with about 125k miles on the clock. First time out, we drove about 20 miles to town to get new tires. When the tech tried to start the car, nothing happened. No start, no turn over, no click. Nothing. Tried jumping. Nothing. Personnel pushed the car inside and put on new tires. Pushed car out. Contacted po and was told that the same thing had happened a couple of time in the past. Po said he thought it might be neutral safety switch. Car started after moving gear shift thru the gears several times. Ordered new switch. New switch came yesterday. No time to put it on. Drove car to town today and after refueling it would not start. Moved thru the gears many many time. No start. After several hours returned and the car started right up. Sounds  like something electrical is heating up and not working. Does the neutral safety switch have any electronics inside? Could the started/solenoid be getting hot from driving? In the morning I am going to put the new switch on and see what happens. Any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated. I will post what happens after new switch and driving.  


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