Re: [diesel_mercedes] RE: Stopped Again

 

Thank you and I appreciate it.  The problem really is the body is shot so I don't think I am going forward with it.

From: "vwnate1@yahoo.com" <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:00 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] RE: Stopped Again

 

The 1/4 tank bit makes me think it is time to remove the in tank fuel strainer , this is a really filthy , oily job that requires ramps and a 46 MM socket with 1/2" drive flex handle , wobble 12" extension or a 1/2" drive knuckle .

Once you've taken the Diesel bath and removed the screen , it is easily cleaned in a Hospital Clean container of fresh gasoline and an old tooth brush plus 5 # or so of _LINT_FREE_ clean rags or blue wiper towels .

It really sounds like it's drawing in air ~ and when the slimy crud collects around the in tank fuel screen , it forces the screen to begin drawing air from the top part of it when there's not much fuel in the tank ~ the 1/4 tank problems and stalling indicates this to me .

It matters not who you have paid to clean the in tank screen , I always find this is clogged until the owner removes and cleans it properly .

Have you tried holding both ends of each and every hose connection under the hood and twisting them ? if they're able to twist , you have an air leak , replace the hose with the correct IMPORTED 7MM DIESEL RATED fuel hose (! NOT the stuff NAPA etc. sell !)  and a full set of matching band typ hose clamps ~ those " ideal " (brand) screw typ clamps CANNOT POSSIBLY work 100 % ~ I know many here have them and all my cars did when I bought them but all have the correct $3 each German band typ clamps now and no air leaks in the fuel....

I understand you've tried all this but in the end , once you have eliminted everything else , whatever remains , no matter how unlikely , is always the root problem .

I run horribly high mileage and previously abused Mercedes Diesels (three of them) but I'm *very* picky about the details and I never have these problems in spite of always having dirty fuel troubles no matter where I buy my Diesel fuel .

Last Q. : how long ago did you last replace the secondary , screw on fuel filter ? .

-Nate

      Mike wrote:

This is the third time I have been towed because the vehicle stops running.  Some facts are:
1. Vehicle has 1/4 tank or less.
2. Temp is 25 degrees outside.
3. Diesel Kleen (white bottle) added
4. When operating the hand pumpfule comes out of the hand pump but none out of the bleeder screw on the fuel filter canister.
In the past I looked and the fuel lines were open to the fuel filter.

Any help is so appreciated.  This is really strange.

Mike


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 240D : Death By Children

 

My first diesel MB was a 1977 240D standard.
Had been used mainly in the city for 7 years by the previous owner.

When I bought it it was only running on 3 cylinders.
I removed the bad injector, it was seized, cleaned it with emmery cloth and then the engine ran alot better.
Still stalled at every light.
Was only able to get 60 miles per hour out of it.
I was told by the folks at MBZ.org to add a quart of 10w30 oil to my fuel and go on a long hard drive.
I did, I went from Vancouver to Kamloops, about a 3hr drive , the end bit is a highway climb mainly uphill.
In Kamloops it ran much better and only stalled a bit at lights.
On my way home, it was even better, the last leg to Vancouver is real flat.
A couple of trucks with a boat and jetski's flew by me, so I decided to see what she would do.
It had way more power, and topped out at about 92 MPH, the point where the governor stops further speed.
It didn't stall at lights anymore either.

The folks at MBZ had a saying about the old diesels,that I still remember.
"Drive it like you stole it"

I drove my 240D hard all the time, it seemed to run better all the time.
Hard driving removes the carbon and cleans the motor.
MB diesels have governors to stop us from breaking them.

I now have a 300D non turbo and I drive it hard too.
When I bought it I litteraly couldn't win a race with an old school VW beatle.
Now the car has alot of acceleration in comparison.

The old MB diesel's are perfect for the College boy.
They really don't have enough acceleration to get them in trouble.
If they do get in trouble, there is enough metal for them to probably servive.
The school kids actually think they look cool, ops BAD if they have low profile tires.

I have one for each of my boys.



From: "vwnate1@yahoo.com" <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:46:35 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 240D : Death By Children

 

A College boy in a 240D ? only if you _hate_ the car and want to see it die horribly .

I love our '82 240D and plan to still have it long after the fancier 300D's are sold .

College kids _always_ over speed the engine and that's certain death .

Oddly , SWMBO told me I drive the 240D automatic too fast , I think it's dog slow but I like it anyway ~ it _barely_ keeps up with traffic and doesn't go any faster if I give it the gun so I _never_ give it over 1/2 throttle , not ever .

-Nate

Henry wrote:

Max;
send me some pics and details.
this kid is a nice guy, doesn't have much money, but has heard me talk of my love of and for these old cars.

Thanks
Henry


On 2/14/2014 8:08 AM, Max temple wrote:
 
I have a very good running 240D, auto for around that price that price. We've driven it to Cali several times. Max


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Ygmir Tunn <ygmir111@...> wrote:
Hi gang.
My daughters friend, who lives in Ventura, sent me this description from
a CL ad.
He's a starving college student, just needs basic transpo, and knows how
I love the old diesels.

he's trying to find something under 2K, that he can mostly drive
locally, once in a while a 500 mile trip "home"

anyone got any good leads?

Thanks
Henry

as follows:

Attention diesel people (you know who you are!), Selling my 84 190d, has
a 5 cylinder 2.5 engine transplant & 5 speed tranny, 15" wheels, newer
headlights, ok tires, good brakes, new ignition key tumbler, ball
joints, new glo plugs, shocks r good, no wrecks -clean title - a well
maintained, 35mpg car, OK interior. About 290K miles on car, 210K on
engine..upgrades/engine/transmission replacement done for
driveability!!! ..the power windows work, sunroof works, heat works but
ac needs to be connected, but it was working before the 5 cylinder
engine was installed - so it is easily fixable- it runs great, would
drive it anywhere as it sits, goes 70mph + up the grade on the 14 fwy.
Cosmetically car is OK+, has a little clearcoat peel, yellow paint,
little dings, etc..interior is mb tex, and is complete, but old. the car
drives straight and smoke is minimal (normal- no blowby). Keeps up with
modern traffic, won't win drag races, but way better than the 4 cylinder
190d, and the 5 speed is really what the Germans had in mind when they
made this car. XLNT commuter transportation, I am 2nd owner (I think),
have put about 140K on this car commuting back n forth from palmdale to
LA for work. Selling because I just bought a Golf TDI and I also have an
87 190d 2.5 turbo so I have too many cars right now. if interested just
call to get the whole story on the car - its a good car, not perfect,
but I have kept this car in pretty good shape for the last 3 years I've
owned it. Not too many of these cars out there, and most are automatic,
and 2.2 engine - this one rides great - so call mike ..car is currently
with my mechanic in Fontana, near intersection of 15 and 10 fwys - will
show by appt...calling is better than emailing!! phone number is
available by clicking the "contact" button


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