[diesel_mercedes] Re: Fuel Milage Check 1984 300CD Auto W/ AC

 

Yea, Nate, WTF? Dont you ever adjust your valves? Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Michael Tartaglione <autowerkesformercedes@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds like valve seals or a valve adjustment.
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Nate <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K. , we drove (I drove , she rode , stop nit picking) to Las Vegas for
> > the weekend , bumper to bumper stop and go traffic all the way from Los
> > Angeles to Las Vegas _AND_ back again , GRrrr........
> >
> > I had the AC on full tilt boogie the entire time , lots and lots of idling
> > when I'd run into some store or whatever and SWMBO would sit in the idling
> > car with the AC going.....
> >
> > First tank 423 miles 27.2 MPG
> >
> > Second tank 380 miles 27.4 MPG .
> >
> > I still have about 1/3 a tank to finish yet .
> >
> > The engine is beginning to smoke more than I like , oil smoke , light blue
> > and it uses a quart of oil before 400 miles , not correct .
> >
> > It also blows out a cloud of black fuel smoke every time I leave a dead
> > stop .
> >
> > Stay tuned , I'll be dipping into it pretty soon .
> >
> > The intake fuel screen remains clean , I've been using 4 Oz. of Startron
> > and 4 Oz. of MMO each fillup .
> >
> > That's it , I'm beat & going to bed , see if I can make it to work to -
> > morrow or not .
> >
> > -Natye
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '82 240D Auto AC Used

 

Yes, not a problem.  I believe Nate concurred in another post that both Textron and Seafoam are good products.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Michael, I use Textron in spark ignition engines. It seems to help a
little. Is OK to use in diesels? Bobby



On 8/15/11, Michael Tartaglione <autowerkesformercedes@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use Chevron Textron or Seafoam to clean the injectors and fuel system.
> Works great.
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>> I put some MMO & a bit of Startron into the last fillup because the fluel
>> in the intake screen was darkish , I removed the intake screen for
>> cleaning
>> and it had no chunks in it .
>>
>> 251 miles , 28.6 MPG , $4.09 / gallon of branded Diesel Fuel .
>>
>> The AC is sweet ~ nice and cool , dry as a bone inside during to - day's
>> muggy outing . SWMBO complained it was too cold in there , B.S. sayeth I .
>>
>> -Nate
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300D for sale - California car

 

Looks nice.  good luck with the sale!

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Andrew <okldboy@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from Andrew included below]

Hi all-

I have decided to sell my 82 300D turbo and thought I would mention this to you guys first in case anyone is interested.  I am selling it as I recently inherited two classic cars and now have too many cars.  Prior to this I planned to keep this car indefinitely so have cared for it accordingly.  The car runs well - starts right up, shifts crisply, coolant temp around 80 degrees, full oil pressure by 1300 rpm or so when fully warmed up.  AC is cold.

Some further details:

-Mileage: 202k
-Purchased new in Oakland CA in September of 1982
-Purchased by me from the original owner (a friend of my father) in September of 1996
-Always garaged since new
-California car with no rust and with original blue license plates
-All service records from new as well as stamped service bookets
-China blue paint all original except hood and front fender tops which were re-done after a minor accident in 1985 and re-sprayed again in 1999. One small section of crows footing on hood but barely noticeable.
-Blue MB tex without any tears or rips

-One very small dash crack (not from sun, but from someone "resting" a camera on the dash)
-Everything works except cruise control
-Factory Becker Europa with working tape deck and Becker-installed ipod adaptor
-Recent work includes radiator and water pump, alternator, belts, upper control arms, front brake pads, vacuum shut off.
-Oil changed every six months, brake fluid changed every year, coolant changed every other year.  -Recent oil and filter change, brake fluid change, coolant change, trans fluid/filter change, valve adjustment, fuel filters, and power steering filter.
-Michelin X radials front and rear with approx 10k on them
-Front disks and starter around 190k
-Minor oil leaks but does not drip and does not require oil between changes (usually around 1500 miles)

I am happy to answer any more questions and/or email more photos.  The car is located in San Francisco.  I am asking $4000.

Take care,

Andrew
212 960 3382 cell



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300 SD stalling

 

I am thinking air in the fuel system or vacuum issue.  how long has this been occurring?


 
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Did you do any repair work just prior to this "sudden" problem?
 
brian from la verne, ca
From: robert <klinkelis@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300 SD stalling

 
My 1982 300SD runs great but has suddenly started to stall at idle. The idle is around 750. The engine just stalls. I turn the key it starts up and runs fine. I have replaced all of the filters including the tank screen. thanks for your help. bob




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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Footwell Water Collection

 

I haev owned numerous of the 123 cars with this problem.  If it is not rotten rocker panels, then it is usually the windshield seal or rot from under the battery tray that is contributing to the indoor swimming pool.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


Max ;

I sure hope you're not suggesting he drill drain holes ! .

That's the very worst solution as the open holes allow the _inghress_ of water tossed up from the tires and so promote rusting and ruination of the entire vehicle .

Guess how I learned this 40 + years ago ? .

I also learned the water is *very* elastic so the drain holes must be much larger then you'd think , further negating their usefullness .

-Nate
(who must have really been beat , I not only missed my usual 04:00 wake up time , I slept until 07:30)

Max wrote:
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> Drill? Max
>


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check 1984 300CD Auto W/ AC

 

Sounds like valve seals or a valve adjustment.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


O.K. , we drove (I drove , she rode , stop nit picking) to Las Vegas for the weekend , bumper to bumper stop and go traffic all the way from Los Angeles to Las Vegas _AND_ back again , GRrrr........

I had the AC on full tilt boogie the entire time , lots and lots of idling when I'd run into some store or whatever and SWMBO would sit in the idling car with the AC going.....

First tank 423 miles 27.2 MPG

Second tank 380 miles 27.4 MPG .

I still have about 1/3 a tank to finish yet .

The engine is beginning to smoke more than I like , oil smoke , light blue and it uses a quart of oil before 400 miles , not correct .

It also blows out a cloud of black fuel smoke every time I leave a dead stop .

Stay tuned , I'll be dipping into it pretty soon .

The intake fuel screen remains clean , I've been using 4 Oz. of Startron and 4 Oz. of MMO each fillup .

That's it , I'm beat & going to bed , see if I can make it to work to - morrow or not .

-Natye


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Engine Vibration at Idle

 

Motor mounts typical go bad on these older Mercedes, specifically the drvier's side since it usually get saturated with diesel fuel when changing the in-line fuel filter.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:47 PM, zip_joe <davidburrows@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I did not drive my '82 300D for a week. When I went back to driving it again, the engine now vibrates pretty bad. I can see the hood shake. I did swap out the injectors with my other 300D so I know it's not that. I attempted the rack damper adj, but no noticeable change (vibration wise). Any Idea for next?


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[diesel_mercedes] 1982 300D for sale - California car [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from Andrew included below]

Hi all-

I have decided to sell my 82 300D turbo and thought I would mention this to you guys first in case anyone is interested.  I am selling it as I recently inherited two classic cars and now have too many cars.  Prior to this I planned to keep this car indefinitely so have cared for it accordingly.  The car runs well - starts right up, shifts crisply, coolant temp around 80 degrees, full oil pressure by 1300 rpm or so when fully warmed up.  AC is cold.

Some further details:

-Mileage: 202k
-Purchased new in Oakland CA in September of 1982
-Purchased by me from the original owner (a friend of my father) in September of 1996
-Always garaged since new
-California car with no rust and with original blue license plates
-All service records from new as well as stamped service bookets
-China blue paint all original except hood and front fender tops which were re-done after a minor accident in 1985 and re-sprayed again in 1999. One small section of crows footing on hood but barely noticeable.
-Blue MB tex without any tears or rips
-One very small dash crack (not from sun, but from someone "resting" a camera on the dash)
-Everything works except cruise control
-Factory Becker Europa with working tape deck and Becker-installed ipod adaptor
-Recent work includes radiator and water pump, alternator, belts, upper control arms, front brake pads, vacuum shut off.
-Oil changed every six months, brake fluid changed every year, coolant changed every other year.  -Recent oil and filter change, brake fluid change, coolant change, trans fluid/filter change, valve adjustment, fuel filters, and power steering filter.
-Michelin X radials front and rear with approx 10k on them
-Front disks and starter around 190k
-Minor oil leaks but does not drip and does not require oil between changes (usually around 1500 miles)

I am happy to answer any more questions and/or email more photos.  The car is located in San Francisco.  I am asking $4000.

Take care,

Andrew
212 960 3382 cell


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 

I remember that test.But it works better than most additives.It must have a cetane improver,Btu improver,and lube.I use on gas engines also for mileage.Also to thin 15w40 for winter driving.The only thing better for mile was half diesel and half used AFT.

From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 
Someone posted a (very good) lab test of the top 10 or 15 additives some months back. I do use MMO all the the time but was surprised that it finished in the middle of the pack for lubricity, behind the winner - one of the Diesel Kleens. And some Lucas product was also near the top. MMO and the others are available in gallon sizes at O'Reilly and probably others if you want to save a buck or two.
 
brian from la verne, ca
From: Stan George <ssgkag@frontier.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 
Does anyone know/suspect what the principal ingredient in MMO is? I
know it is very black which would make one suspect "colloidal graphite"
which fills pitted valves, keeps all metal to metal contact to a minimum
and adheres to metal surfaces. I have used a similar product for 40
years that I know contains colloidal graphite and is no longer available
so I make my own version.

I have never used MMO but it is starting to sound very good.
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: water pump bolt I can not reach question 1978 300D

 

Wow. I should have thought of that.

thank you
Rodger

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "oldsinner111" <tccservice111@...> wrote:
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> grind away bracket around bolt large enough for a socket.Use a dremel.
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 

Someone posted a (very good) lab test of the top 10 or 15 additives some months back. I do use MMO all the the time but was surprised that it finished in the middle of the pack for lubricity, behind the winner - one of the Diesel Kleens. And some Lucas product was also near the top. MMO and the others are available in gallon sizes at O'Reilly and probably others if you want to save a buck or two.
 
brian from la verne, ca
From: Stan George <ssgkag@frontier.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 
Does anyone know/suspect what the principal ingredient in MMO is? I
know it is very black which would make one suspect "colloidal graphite"
which fills pitted valves, keeps all metal to metal contact to a minimum
and adheres to metal surfaces. I have used a similar product for 40
years that I know contains colloidal graphite and is no longer available
so I make my own version.

I have never used MMO but it is starting to sound very good.
--
Stan George Portland <<


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 

I think its whale oil.

From: Stan George <ssgkag@frontier.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 
Does anyone know/suspect what the principal ingredient in MMO is? I
know it is very black which would make one suspect "colloidal graphite"
which fills pitted valves, keeps all metal to metal contact to a minimum
and adheres to metal surfaces. I have used a similar product for 40
years that I know contains colloidal graphite and is no longer available
so I make my own version.

I have never used MMO but it is starting to sound very good.
--
Stan George Portland <<


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Additives & Snake Oils : MMO

 

Does anyone know/suspect what the principal ingredient in MMO is? I
know it is very black which would make one suspect "colloidal graphite"
which fills pitted valves, keeps all metal to metal contact to a minimum
and adheres to metal surfaces. I have used a similar product for 40
years that I know contains colloidal graphite and is no longer available
so I make my own version.

I have never used MMO but it is starting to sound very good.
--
Stan George Portland <<

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