Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 

I went to look at the 1982 300SD today, and it didn't follow me home. It had many strengths although it had lots of little issues, but one big thing chased me off. The first red flag went up when he pulled in with the car as we were pulling up. I personally like to start a car cold to see what's going on. It didn't have any blowby at 301K which was impressive! The tranny problem wasn't serious. Just a messed up control cable housing (broken just like my '83 was), and rerouted vacuum lines. The switch was still on the valve cover. It did shift normally after a little fiddling with the cable which eased my mind. The interesting situation was the injector/diesel knock. I noticed it as he was turning around to park it. The engine was perfectly quiet immediately upon restarting, but after 5-10 seconds, the knock would gradually fade in. It seemed to be with one cylinder at a constant rhythm at idle and while under load up to 2500RPM or so. It subsides once you take your foot off the loud pedal and coast down to a stop. The engine was a bit oily but not too bad, and the body and interior were presentable though in need of a good cleaning. The front shocks were well warn to the point where the right front clicked and rattled over bumps. I could feel it transmit through the shock as I put my hand on it and bounced the car. All of the tie rod and ball joint boots were intact, and it had good tires and brakes all the way around. The other problem was that there was something stripped in the sunroof drive mechanism. It's clearly a bottom feeder's Benz which I could live with, but I found the deal breaker. ALL OF THE AC COMPONENTS WERE REMOVED, compressor, condenser, etc under the hood!!!!! In the 1 kilobuck price bracket, I didn't expect the AC to work, but it would cost too much to buy the components and restore the AC to factory condition. I think there would have been a chance of buying the car if it was all there. It did have european headlights which was kind of cool.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, looking for another kilobuck Mercedes Diesel

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Tools & Mechanics

 

borrowed a blooming 3/4" torque wrench from a friend, the 3/4" square drive bit snapped off at about 350ft lbs. you could see a bubble in the steel where it broke. I replaced it ouch.
Tony.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "max_stemple" <jasperezra@...> wrote:
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> Some folks can borrow tools just fine and some folks are just jerks. I borrow tools and I treat them better than my own. If I break one because I did something wrong I pay for it. If I borrow a tool that is gonna break the next time it's used then different story. Communication is a wonderful tool too, not only for tools, try it with your family, amazing tool.. Some tools you never loan, fragile stuff. I know people who I don't mind driving my cars, I know people who will never drive my cars. Life is a Winding road. Max
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> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
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> > Bill ;
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> > 1st ; thank you for your Service .
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> > I have little patience for those who borrow tools , Tom is working on getting me to change this as we often do my Physical Therapy in junkyards where I'll find a thing (Sat. it was an original GM underhood light & reel made by Hobbs, I'm sure you understand) so then I have to borrow a tool.......
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> > I'd rather stop what I'm doing and use my tools for you than loan my tools out .
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> > Occasionally I allow folks to work on their rigs in my yard , I still don't loan tools .
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> > Like you said : the correct tool just falls to your hand , it may not be new nor fancy but all my tools are carefully selected .
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> > -Nate
> > Bill wrote:
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> > > Yes, I supose it is cigar shaped ,off the filter. I do or did have a new one in a box of mercedes stuff. I have as extra.
> > > Borrowers, I made my living with class eight vechiles, then at the end courier. I had an ecloine van outfitted, so well, I could do an inline overaul on a truck if I had to.And it was stowed awy neatly and in order. Then when we moved here, and I was a guy with just a lot of tools. But kids and grand kids grew up. Over the years, my shop has become a jumboed mess, half my tools gone. I have caught my son taking them to fix things for people, and not for pay, or so he says. But tools taken like that will invariable come up missing.
> > > Some of these tooks, I bought before marrying his mother, while still in the Navy. I can tell it is mine, just by the feel. Last summer, his G/F one of my screw drivers lieing in their drive way. They say to me, they make millions of them, and they do. But I maintain, you use it for 30 or 40 years, there is a feel, you just know, what is and isn't yours. But it can cause one to be not so friendly , as most can not /will not afford fix or replacement.
> > > And the fact is, I intend for this mercedes to be the last sedan, my wife and I own. Bill C
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 

I'd pick the SD.
 
Tom Hanson
Mercedes Benz Classic Center USA
MBUSA, LLC
thomas.hanson@mbusa.com
949 598-4842 direct
949 598-4870 fax
From: Kevin Kraly <kraly@comcast.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:41 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 
I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D for $1K, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN?
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 

You always want to "look into it" - doesn't mean you have to buy it.   PS-shifting always seems to be a fixable vacuum issue. One of mine shifts smooth as silk, the other has a hard shift which is controlable with good accelerator pedal use.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Kevin Kraly <kraly@comcast.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:41 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 
I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D for $1K, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN?
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 

Kevin, I take my 82D and 85TD daily drivers to my mechanic for a transmission tune up.  Both cars are well over 250K miles each.  I know they shift by vacuum.  I am sure that the shifting problems will come back to the missing vacuum lines.  My greascar mechanic though he was doing me a favor and disconnected my vacuum lines.  He couldn't see any difference.  Will never go back to him!  
I would recommend that you take the better (little rust) car to a good Benz (not a general auto) mechanic and they you will know what you have to do to have a good daily driver.  Also, the vacuum lines will have other issues such as auto locks for the doors and maybe some under dash issues.
Mercedessource on youtube address trans vacuum shifting in one of his video's.
 
Boyd
From: Kevin Kraly <kraly@comcast.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:41 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 
I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D for $1K, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN?
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question

 

I removed all the leaky hoses and valves off mine.Shifts great.Flairs only when cold so I shift manually


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From: Kevin Kraly <kraly@comcast.net>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1982 300SD Question
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 4, 2012, 9:41 PM

 
I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D for $1K, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a couple for around $1K. The first one is a 1981 300D with the ACCII setup (no servo), and a 1982 300SD, both near 300Kmi. The 300SD is supposedly a good runner with good body and interior as is the 300D. It does have a couple issues. First, the tranny flairs a bit between 2nd and 3rd for a few miles of driving while it's warming up, but it's normal when warm. Also, the vacuum lines/switches on the valve cover are missing. The seller said that he took it to a shop who told him that the missing vacuum lines were the reason for the flairing, but I would think that it would shift HARD if this was the case. Should I look into it, walk away or RUN?
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, Kein MB Diesel for now

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