Just to put this to bed, and having read the wiki link (thanks) the fact that evolution probably happened first with cyano bacteria then algae then more complex plants virtually all of which contain chloroplasts, means that cyano bacteria are linked to algae, trees and all other green plants. Just as most people are linked to apes, pigs, fish etc. Bacteria are a whole different class than algae, just as we are a whole different class than fish. Terminology is very important and errors can really change how people go about changing things, hope this ends the sidebar.
We absolutely need to continue the work of growing oil producing algae and developing other oil producing plants, so keep up the good work.
Tony
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@...> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I don't think I am misleading people. You only need to read the first line:
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynobacteria>
>
> Further down, under Classification, they say the same thing.
>
> Per your sweetie, I think the cynobacteria have little oil, so I don't
> think we are interested in them. As I said, I prefer Pc.
>
> Bobby
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Lost but making good time. <
> aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bobby,
> > SWMBO told me what is happening with cyano bacteria,this evening while we
> > were sitting in the hot tub. (her micro biological creds are very strong)
> > Cyano bacteria, is a group of bacteria that grow out in a cyan color,
> > there are a number of different ones which have different names, some are
> > called cyano bacter xyz. There are quite a few of them, they have nothing
> > to do with algae, and will not produce oil, the have nothing to do with
> > cyanide. They are firmly entrenched in the medical world and have been for
> > probably a hundred years now, although new strains are being found as they
> > evolve.
> >
> > Whoever told you that algae has been renamed as cyano bacteria is wrong,
> > bacteria is not algae, nor algae bacteria.
> > I commend you for looking for good oil producing algae, but if you muddy
> > the waters with wrong terms you will just confuse people.
> > I think that algae oil production for bio fuels is the way of the
> > future,so lets keep our terms straight.
> > Cheers, Tony.
> >
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Tony,
> > >
> > > I have never developed an interest in the reclassification of life into
> > > groups.
> > >
> > > I think that what used to be called blue-green algae has been renamed
> > > cyano-bacteria.
> > >
> > > I think that none of them produce much oil.
> > >
> > > I think that the 20 that we are interested in are true algaes.
> > >
> > > My concern is finding 1 or more species that can be "farmed" to produce
> > oil.
> > >
> > > My favorite is CCMP647, a strain of Pleurochrysis carterae. If we prove
> > > that it works, maybe we can ask your SWMBO to verify the proper
> > > classification of it.
> > >
> > > <https://ncma.bigelow.org/node/1/strain/CCMP647>
> > >
> > > NCMA (used to be CCMP) says it is:
> > > *Class: *Prymnesiophyceae *Genus: *Pleurochrysis *Species: *
> >
> > > carterae
> > >
> > > Bobby
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Lost but making good time. <
> > > aldridgetony97@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bobby SWMBO is a retired microbiologist, she tells me that
> > cyano-bacteria
> > > > - is a bacteria not an algae, it grows out blue green on a petri dish,
> > it
> > > > will not be an oil feed stock, there may be a cyano algae???.
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Garbage IS used in some places, mostly burned to power steam
> > generating
> > > > > plants. It's hard to think of it as a specific fuel feedstock, since
> > > > > "garbage" is a term that can be used to describe so many mixtures of
> > > > various
> > > > > things (without even considering the "garbage" we see in political
> > ads).
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the interesting advantages of the cyanobacteria efforts is
> > that
> > > > > they include efforts to create genetically modified bacteria that
> > will
> > > > > generate oils from a variety of feed stocks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dead leaves and wood are substantively different from paper, since
> > > > > lots of chemicals are used when making paper, and there are
> > > > 'contamination'
> > > > > issues about what things in paper might poison the bacteria.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alcohol holds less energy per unit volume that diesel, kerosene,
> > > > > gasoline, etc. So focusing on making it is better suited to other
> > uses
> > > > of
> > > > > alcohol. I don't recall many stories about moonshiners running their
> > > > cars and
> > > > > trucks on the alcohol they brewed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 7/17/2012 8:53:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > > tccservice111@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I want garbage looked at for fuel,paper,dead leaves,and wood to make
> > > > > alcohol.Green things press for oil,then left over for alcohol.Left
> > over
> > > > to
> > > > > enrich farm land.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, n61cm <jim@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: n61cm <jim@>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternate Diesel Fuels
> > > > > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:50 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A few years ago I volunteered to be a judge in the local high
> > school's
> > > > > science fair. One of the kids had harvested two types of algae from
> > > > local
> > > > > ponds (which he called "green" and "brown" algae), extracted the oil
> > > > from them,
> > > > > and burned it to determine which algae had more energy. Every now and
> > > > then
> > > > > a kid comes along who renews my faith in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a related note, why are we always looking for the one single
> > thing to
> > > > > replace oil? It's probably better to replace it with a bunch of
> > things,
> > > > not
> > > > > just one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In _diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (
> > > >
> > http://us.mc1147.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > )
> > > > , Bobby Yates Emory
> > > > > <liberty1@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the opening for a plug.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are a few thousand of us who are trying to develop ways to
> > grow
> > > > > algae
> > > > > > and extract oil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are now making small progress toward an open source solution,
> > but
> > > > have
> > > > > > not cost the taxpayers millions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of the algae are called cyanobacteria. I am not a
> > microbiologist
> > > > so
> > > > > I
> > > > > > don't know whether they are bacteria or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everyone is invited to join us here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/join_
> > > > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/join) >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bobby
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Toward freedom,
> > >
> > > Bobby Yates Emory
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Toward freedom,
>
> Bobby Yates Emory
>
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