Re: [diesel_mercedes] What do you think of this list of MB's?

 

I generally agree.  I don't know why to avoid the '77 240D; their climate control system is no more complicated or troubleprone than any of the other 240D's.  And the '80 300D is just as troublesome as any of it's predecessors.  The problems aren't confined to just that one year.

I don't much care for the 190D 2.5's, or any of the W201 models, for that matter.  Too plasticky.  They seem built down to a price, rather than up to a standard (to twist the old Nash Rambler tag line).  But, if you find a well-cared for example for a good price, then, go for it.

The W124 300D, with the W126's 3.0 six-cylinder turbodiesel, is a rocket.  (Though, can also be plagued with brittle plastic problems, like it's contemporary stablemate, the W201 190D 2.5.)

This list left off the original automotive turbo-diesel car; the W116 300SD, '78-80.  Generally, no more troublesome than the '77-'80 300D (primarily concerning the climate control system).  This is where your new engine came from....

Mark in Lakewood, CO

From: "Trish Dougherty" <purrfectharmonyfarm@wifi45.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:38:59 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] What do you think of this list of MB's?

 


I was prowling through the Benz World Forum and found this list.

BUY LIST

240D non-turbo
300D non-turbo
300CD non-turbo
300TD non-turbo (were the T is desinating wagon)

81-85 300sd turbo
86-87 300sdl turbo

87 300d/300TD turbo (were the T is desinating wagon)

94-95 e300 non-turbo

96-97 e300 non-turbo
98-99 e300 turbo

84-85 190d 2.2 non-turbo
86-89 190d 2.5 non-turbo
87 190d 2.5 turbo


Avoid List

90-91 350sd/sdl turbo
92-95 300sd or S350 turbo

Actually all of the 617 engines were good... in both Turbo and non turbo...The 240d's are good if you don't mind the massive amount of bugs that commit suicide on the back windshied. But avoid the 1977 240D because the heater is a nightmare to work on.. same can be said for the 1980 300D... Many mechanics will tell you that the absolute best years for the 617 diesel engines were the 300D T's in the 123 chassis between 1982 and 1985. I didn't know that unitl after I stumbled upon my rust free, no cracks in dash, all power locks, windows, ac, workiing, good compression 1982 300D T, that cost me all of $400. So in that regard, I was lucky not smart.
Also most MB mechanics will tell you to avoid the 86 & 87 300SDL and 300TD because, if they're not allowed to come to heat before driving and cool down before shut down, the aluminum heads tend to crack at the casting bosses.


I have always been told buy diesel mechainics and MB mechainics that the 86-87 300sdl and 87 300td are the best too buy as far as power even though they may not run quite as far as a 300sd they will still easily get to 500K. I guess it may just be depends who u talk to on those models but mine and everyone i personally have talked to loved theres and never had any problems. But yes if they have been over heated then avoid unless the head has been replaced. I just sold mine toon here


The 87 300D and 87 190D 2.5T are my personal picks for the best cars.


I had also heard good things about the 190D2.5 one of our past posters had one. The 87 300D had the same engine as the 86-87 300sdl so basically that comes down to if u like the W124 or the W126




What do you think???


--
Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX
http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com

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